"If utilitarianism is the correct moral framework, the answer is simply to pull the lever and spare the most lives" that's the reason why it's a critique. If utilitarianism aligned with human morals, then there's no question on what action a moral person would perform. Except it's nothing but endless debate on what one would do in that situation. Thus it being a critique.
Not a great critique in my opinion. It's like how Schrödinger's Cat, a critique on the absurdity of superpositions, is now just there as a stand-in for the weirdness of quantum mechanics. A critique should be clear on what is attempting to accomplish.
To be fair, though, humans will twist critiques of something into advocacy, even if it's tone deaf as hell. Defending bad cops as "a few bad apples" when the rest of the phrase is "spoils the bunch". Or "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", a thing which is impossible, being used to express frustration towards the poor.
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Rokin@leminal.space · 18 pts · 212d
The dog is shaking from fear, this is not even a choice!
Honytawk@feddit.nl · 15 pts · 212d
Yeah, the humans are just leisurely laying bound on a train track.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 8 pts · 212d
Yet another day of misrepresenting the trolley problem.
TrousersMcPants@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
How do you mean?
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 15 pts · 212d
The trolley problem was never about a moral calculus but a critique of utilitarianism.
chuckleslord@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d
"If utilitarianism is the correct moral framework, the answer is simply to pull the lever and spare the most lives" that's the reason why it's a critique. If utilitarianism aligned with human morals, then there's no question on what action a moral person would perform. Except it's nothing but endless debate on what one would do in that situation. Thus it being a critique.
Not a great critique in my opinion. It's like how Schrödinger's Cat, a critique on the absurdity of superpositions, is now just there as a stand-in for the weirdness of quantum mechanics. A critique should be clear on what is attempting to accomplish.
To be fair, though, humans will twist critiques of something into advocacy, even if it's tone deaf as hell. Defending bad cops as "a few bad apples" when the rest of the phrase is "spoils the bunch". Or "pull themselves up by their bootstraps", a thing which is impossible, being used to express frustration towards the poor.
Hazel@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 212d
Oh absolutely! My favourite example of this is 'meritocracy'.
I don't think the trolley problem is complete without the fat man hypothesis though, which is much less obvious despite having the same outcome.
Sunsofold@lemmings.world · 1 pts · 212d
Maybe v1.0 was. It has developed into more than just one thing in the intervening years.
moshankey@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
Not a problem now.
harambe69@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 212d
Pretty sure there are more humans than dogs in the world.
germanatlas@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 212d
Some of you may die, but that’s a sacrifice I am willing to make
SAF77@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 212d
Fuck humans, save the dog.
essell@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Definitely better than the other way around.
baltakatei@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 212d
5̶ ̶p̶e̶o̶p̶l̶e̶ ̶v̶e̶r̶s̶u̶s̶ ̶1̶ ̶d̶o̶g̶
5 slave owners versus 1 slave
Soulg@ani.social · 5 pts · 212d
Is this a joke