New Hampshire bishop warns after ICE shooting that a 'new era of martyrdom' is upon us

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/new-hampshire-bishop-warns-new-era-martyrdom-ice-shooting-rcna254813

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CaliforniaSober@lemmy.ca · 27 pts · 236d (1 reply)

He also mentioned several historical clergy members who risked their lives to protect others, including New Hampshire seminary student Jonathan Daniels, who was shot and killed by an Alabama sheriff’s deputy while he was shielding a young Black civil rights activist in 1965.

“I have told the clergy of the Episcopal diocese of New Hampshire that we may be entering into that same witness,” Hirschfeld said. “And I’ve asked them to get their affairs in order, to make sure they have their wills written, because it may be that now is no longer the time for statements but for us with our bodies, to stand between the powers of this world and the most vulnerable.”

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 236d

A Christian leader encouraging actual love-thy-neighbour things and selfless actions. That's refreshing to see when we hear so much about the USA's worst "Christians". And of course the US Government is attacking him for it.

Drusas@fedia.io · 3 pts · 236d

Now that man is a leader.

Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 236d (6 replies)

Historically, the Catholic Church has always sided with the oppressors. Except of course when they WERE the oppressors. Pope Leo donated money and held fundraisers for Hitler. Catholics in the USA overwhelmingly voted for Trump. Catholics in Argentina overwhelmingly voted for Milei. Et cetera.

Christians had been fascists for centuries before the word "fascism" even existed. They literally believe that the Universe itself is a dictatorship, and they think that's a good thing. Fuck them for trying to look like the good guys when they have caused more human misery than any other group in the history of the Universe.

Someone@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 236d (1 reply)

I'm not religious or American so I may not have all the context, but a quick search shows the Episcopal Church is Protestant (which to the best of my knowledge is famously not the same as Catholic). And from the outside looking through the window of Christians and Americans in general, they seem to be on the more progressive side of things.

captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 236d

Yeah they're basically the American variant of the Church of England and are far more progressive than that implies

tomi000@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 232d (3 replies)

So because church leaders are evil that means everyone involved is just as evil.

I guess all of the US is evil too, 300 million people, without exception.

Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 231d (2 replies)

This has the same vibe as "if you only vote for the Nazis because you want the trains to be on time, are you really a Nazi?"

The answer doesn't have to be "yes" or "no". It can be "it makes no difference, they contributed to the problem all the same".

tomi000@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 231d (1 reply)

No, its more like "You drink water? Hitler drank water"

Peruvian_Skies@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 231d

If you miss the point entirely, sure.