Applies to every socdem party since the 90s too

I’m sure you could find more stuff if you keep going back. This has been happening forever. Every new generation has to learn this lesson for themselves I guess. But nothing ever changes.

There's a whole lot of people who were too young to remember a quarter century ago.

I actually went to caucus to try and sway and put in my two cents for Bernie, and deadass someone in my ‘group’ said we should vote for Hillary because it’s ‘time for a woman president’. And yeah, not wrong, but that’s his entire reasoning. Ridiculous, not well it would be great to have a woman and she’s really experienced or I believe in this part of what she is running. Nope, just the first part.

The Democrats engage in this exact same behavior. In fact they often either back the Republican efforts to disenfranchise people or fail to provide any counter narrative to dispel the lies which to me is basically tantamount to support. And then when they offer push back it's in the stupidest way that ends up lending some kind of credence to the Republican outlook because there is some need to engage in bipartisanship action with insane people in search of a mythical centrist position that will unite us all.

Let's not pretend this is one side versus the other. Those bought and sold by institutional and corporate power are waging a war on the working class of this nation and much of the rest of the world. It is not left vs right it is owner vs worker.

The reality is our "democratic" institutions are designed to limit the extent to which average people can effectuate change in our society. At every level there are layers of misdirection that are rife with opportunities to dilute the will of the voters and warp it into something that broadly serves the ruling class instead.

People want free healthcare but instead of getting that we end up with some mildly better system that perpetuates the insurance industry being in control of what services a person is allowed to get both through price gouging and denials of service - just as one example. No solutions just Band-Aids to extend the longevity of the powers that be.

Americans:

1. Over throw the Russian Government
2. Install a president in the 90s
3. Work hand in hand with the current president for years
4. Supports regime change on their border causing a civil war for a decade then catching them in a brutal war of attrition in a place that is predominantly Russian speaking culturally Russian people
5. Sanctions Russia and restricts access to global capital causing significant economic harm and forcing them to go into wartime production
6. Decides to withhold all their money
7. Refuses to negotiate in good faith
8. Russia can't seem to end the conflict, get their money back or gain access to US and European markets and capital

Also Americans:

Russia controls the US president! Russia is doing everything bad to the US!

But it dies