Are there even any? I only know of Bosch, but it's basically just a rebranded Ecovacs.
Ideally it has home assistant integration
Edit: After a quick research I came up with this:
- Vorwerk: Way too expensive. Premium price for a very basic device
- Kärcher seems like a solid choice
- Dyson is expensive and the performance does not quite seem to match the price
- Philips, Electrolux and Miele also offer vacuum robots, but I don't know how good they are, yet
- There's also Samsung, which is not european, of course, but at least not chinese or american
29 Comments
How_do_I_computah@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 216d
Are you familiar with https://valetudo.cloud/?
marius@feddit.org · 12 pts · 216d
Oh, no. Another rabbit hole :D
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 7 pts · 216d
But a limited one. You do the flashing once.
When it is freed from it's manufacturer this way, there is usually no need anymore for connecting it to the internet, and therefore you may become rather lazy with updates.
calypho@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
Do you then still receive bug fixes or similar?
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com · 2 pts · 216d
You can flash updated images through Dustbuilder, as long as they are available on it.
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 1 pts · 216d
Ofc you can if you want.
ragas@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 216d
Valetudo is awesome.
It just chugs along.
TunaLobster@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 216d
Another option is sticking an ESP32 to a Neato. https://github.com/Philip2809/neato-connected
marius@feddit.org · 7 pts · 216d
I just found the one from Vorwerk, but my man is that thing expensive
BlackEco@lemmy.blackeco.com · 3 pts · 216d
Aren't Vorwerk robots rebranded Neatos?
TunaLobster@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
They bought everything and developed it a few more steps. Check out neato-connected to keep Neatos going now that the servers are offline. https://github.com/Philip2809/neato-connected
AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 215d
Home assistant integration, neat.
mech@feddit.org · 7 pts · 216d
I tried the Bosch. It's a rebranded Ecovacs with a new app that doesn't work.
I sent it back, couldn't even get it running because of the shitty app.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 7 pts · 216d
I'm stunned at how bad Bosch is at making consumer software. I like their tools, but I won't buy another one where I rely on an app.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 2 pts · 215d
Also with their tools. Bosch green are cheap, Chinese tools comparable to other cheap brands. Bosch blue are the higher quality things.
Their washing machines and dryers are also now plastic welded and non-repairable.
SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 1 pts · 215d
Everything is blue, my dear 💖
Zwuzelmaus@feddit.org · 2 pts · 216d
They let subcontractors do it.
marius@feddit.org · 5 pts · 216d
It's also twice the price
AnnieByniaeth@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 216d
Dyson was one of the arch brexiters. So I think crossing anything Dyson off the list for this community is probably appropriate.
boonhet@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 215d
Stay away from Schbot. Estonian company, but rebrands cheap alibaba crap at up to 10x the price.
fxdave@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 216d
None, but if you want to try one I can sell you cheap my Navon vacuum and mop (from spar). I don't use it because it's faster to do it myself than setting it up.
Schnille@feddit.org · 2 pts · 215d
Kekzkrieger@feddit.org · 2 pts · 216d
Ive looked at endless tests and reviews but however you turn it, the european ones are simply underperforming and pricier.
I would go with a valetudo supported one now (sadly i did not) and just flash it to be free of the shitty software.
Kkk2237pl@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 216d
I dont reccomend karsher, that which was supposed to be anither Dyson. I have one, and my parents have cheap Chinese one, i dont see difference tbh
katajpek@mastodontti.fi · 1 pts · 216d
@marius
Karcher Robot Vacuum, does not made in Germany, but in China. According my understand their mobile apps obey European laws.
starlinguk@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 216d
I have a Roborock. It's great, even mops the floor.
ibot@feddit.org · 1 pts · 216d
How is Roborock european?
starlinguk@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 215d
It's not American.
ibot@feddit.org · 1 pts · 212d
Yeah, but this sub is called buyeuropean, not boycottUSA.