This new transistor from China might end silicon’s reign and turn your next laptop into a speed demon

https://www.techradar.com/pro/chinese-researchers-develop-silicon-free-transistor-technology-claimed-to-be-fastest-and-most-efficient-ever-heres-what-we-know

China has begun mass production of next-generation processors based on molybdenum disulfide instead of traditional silicon semiconductors[^4]. According to Professor Li Hongge's team at Beihang University, these chips merge binary and stochastic logic to achieve better fault tolerance and power efficiency for applications like touch displays and flight systems[^9].

The breakthrough came through developing a Hybrid Stochastic Number (HSN) system that combines traditional binary with probability-based numbers[^9]. This innovation helps overcome two major challenges in chip technology - the power wall from binary systems' high energy consumption, and the architecture wall that makes new non-silicon chips difficult to integrate with conventional systems[^9].

[^4]: AzerNews - China mass-produces silicon-free chips [^9]: SCMP - China starts mass production of world's first non-binary AI chip

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wuphysics87@lemmy.ml · 46 pts · 214d (11 replies)

Won't make any difference if you are still on windows

Grapho@lemmy.ml · 33 pts · 214d (5 replies)

they'll find a way for telemetry to use half of it and the start menu another quarter

FEIN@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 214d

now theyll rewrite the right click menu AND windows explorer in react

irelephant@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 213d (2 replies)

Rewrite entire os to be an electron app

Jankatarch@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 213d (1 reply)

Call it reactOS.

umbrella@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 213d
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Maeve@kbin.earth · 4 pts · 214d

😂

Zerush@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 214d (2 replies)

Wom't make a difference with any current OS, none of those would work with the new arquitecture, way different from the current one. One thing is the new hardware and another is the current lack of any soft or OS for it. Not even DOOM would run in it. Maybe in one or two years it would make sense to change your PC.

Another alternative to silice are diamonds, there the chips are with the same arquitecture as those from silice, but with the advantage that they support much more heat to the point that they don't even need refrigeration, apart the electric apabilities of diamond is way better as those from silice, that permits a way higher speed and stability. The price isn't much higher as the one from normal chips with sythetic diamonds. They are already in use, even with manufactories in Spain.

Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 214d

They are already in use, even with manufactories in Spain.

That's not a diamond transistor company. They are making diamond wafers to mount to traditional silicon. It's a heatsink.

Here's a good overview of the current state of the art in diamond transistor manufacturing.

https://youtu.be/NLmd5vL0zmk

bufalo1973@piefed.social · 1 pts · 212d

New materials doesn't mean new architecture. They can build RISC-V or ARM chips with that.

Fredselfish@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 214d

And with Trump in charge he will ban these for America.

idriss@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 213d
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frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 213d (5 replies)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Abundance_of_elements_in_Earth%27s_crust

silicon – 28.2% of earth's crust; 7,200,000 tonnes extracted per year

bismuth – 0.00000085% of earth's crust; 10,200 tonnes extracted per year

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 7 pts · 212d (1 reply)

doesn't it say "molybdenum disulfide" in the text?

molybdenum - 1.2 ppm (0.00012%); 227,000 tonnes extracted per year

frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 212d

The techradar text says bismuth; the azernews.az text says molybdenum

Zerush@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 213d

Industrial diamonds made with almost everything which contains Carbon.

buddascrayon@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d

And yet Pepto Bismol is found in huge quantities on every drugstore shelf in the world. How will they ever find enough?? 😂

CommanderCloon@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 212d

Silicon is used for way more than just chips though, I'd be surprised if it's more than a percent

riskable@programming.dev · 15 pts · 214d (2 replies)

Bismuth oxyselenide? You mean it can cure both indigestion and get rid of dandruff‽

Poach@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 213d

No, don't eat the rocks, we're trying to make them think!

NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 212d

Take two micro-processors into the shower?

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 14 pts · 213d (4 replies)

“This allows electrons to flow with almost no resistance, like water through a smooth pipe,” Peng explained.

Um actually even smooth water pipes have a lot of tubulance since all materials aren't perfectly smooth so the edges of the pipe have a lot of turbulance which dramatically slows down the water from the theoretical maximum.

ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 213d (2 replies)

Marx never considered water pipes aren't perfectly smooth

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 213d

I went on a shinkansen recently. It was really cool.

Agent641@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d

If the Party says the pipes are smooth, the pipes are smooth.

Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 213d

Now I wonder what would happen if you coated together a super hydrophobic layer.

hedge_lord@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 214d

I'm all for overthrowing the monarchy but my laptop is already full of demons but I do not want them to have a drug problem too that's be unhealthy I hear

pineapple@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 213d (2 replies)

dang I never thought of that. I always assumed silicon was basicly the end, except for quantum computers which aren't very useful for most computing.

B0rax@feddit.org · 20 pts · 213d (1 reply)

Never assume something is the end. There is always something better. It is just one breakthrough away.

tomenzgg@midwest.social · 7 pts · 213d

—me encouraging our locksmith after we've accidentally triggered the prison alarm

meldrik@lemmy.wtf · 7 pts · 213d (1 reply)

Does it run Crysis though?

orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 213d

ONLY GAMERS WILL UNDERSTAND

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 212d (2 replies)

so, if i understand this correctly, it can do stuff like fast and cheap imprecise arithmetic of floating point numbers by doing something like converting the signal to a continuous (non-binary) voltage, then doing some analogous circuitry, then converting the signal back to digital?

certified_expert@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 212d (1 reply)

It seems to be an AI accelerator. Without reading the source, to me seems that that's the game. Interesting.

gandalf_der_12te@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 212d

yeah because AI does a lot of floating-point calculations, and precision is famously not very important there (i.e. google replaced all floating point numbers in their AI models with 8-bit precision fixed-point numbers and the performance is just as good).

ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 212d

Well good to know the chips won't stick to anything since they're made out of anti-seize grease.

Alsjemenou@lemy.nl · 2 pts · 212d (1 reply)

Sounds like total incompatibility. It will take decades before we could even think about incorporating non binary based systems into our workflow.

Zerush@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 212d

I don't think decades, but some years for sure.