I love all the anti-gun rhetoric still and how an armed populace can do "nothing" against the US Military. My question is then to them, why do authoritarians always take away guns then if against a military they're "useless."
The best part is how many of them are using the exact same language that they (rightfully) complained about people using to try and sensationalize and fear monger other cases of civilian firearm ownership. "Oh, it was semi-automatic! (like literally every handgun in existence) And had dozens of rounds (like any modern handgun).
Exact same fucking shit as people would use to bitch and sensationalize other incidents, but in this case Alex Pretti wasn't a fucking mass murderer. They'll complain about the media calling the gun a mass child murderer uses an "assault weapon", but the moment someone actually exercises their 2nd Amendment rights properly, suddenly they're happily repeat the same shit because it benefits them.
Likewise, while I appreciate a lot of people waking up to it, it's frustrating how many people on "the left" (liberal Dems mostly) who were unbelievably ignorant about firearms and were vehemently opposed to any amount of private firearm ownership, suddenly caring about the 2nd Amendment and parroting off "shall not be infringed", as I feel like it's not a principled stance and they're just saying it because it's "their side" now. If they're actually realizing it's kinda important, good for them, but it's still frustrating how many people care solely because it's "their side"
I’ve been a leftist gun owner for about ten years now, and I’m happy to see people on my side coming over. I still think it should be limited to well organized militias (like it says in the constitution), but that would still let states defend themselves from the federal government.
Alex Pretti was a nurse, literally there to adminster first aid if necessary. It feels like I've heard this attitude on another side of this debate before.
A lot of people were mad at me when that trial went on with Rittenhouse because I believed the footage pretty clearly proved self defense. He was an idiot asking for trouble but it was self defense.
Now with Renee and Alex, anybody who believes ICE was acting in self defense is out of their damn mind.
It was a sham of a trial. Rittenhouse should never have been there to begin with and threw away the first tenant of self defense by GOING somewhere that would possibly be dangerous.
Yeah, but this is admonishment of the recent anti arm rhetorics I have seen on threadiverse. Every anti arm person you have read is probably a Nazi, and should be skeptically rebuked.
It's a double entendre because firstly this is absurd, and also a vague reference to how when Trumps insurrectionists show up with guns they just get pardoned instead of executed.
I'll admit it's a bit of a stretch as far as jokes go.
They only found three civilians with guns on Jan 6th and the one woman who got killed didn't have one. I get what you're saying though.
I would say that you probably don't want to bring a gun to a protest if you're going to break the law. Even if you avoid being executed, you could face much harsher charges and lose your 2nd amendment rights. I carry but I'm also very aware of laws where I do.
54 Comments
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 71 pts · 227d
Wow. Republicans sure gave up the second amendment really fast. I figured that one would take a little longer.
W98BSoD@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 23 pts · 226d
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 226d
I love all the anti-gun rhetoric still and how an armed populace can do "nothing" against the US Military. My question is then to them, why do authoritarians always take away guns then if against a military they're "useless."
hovercat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 226d
The best part is how many of them are using the exact same language that they (rightfully) complained about people using to try and sensationalize and fear monger other cases of civilian firearm ownership. "Oh, it was semi-automatic! (like literally every handgun in existence) And had dozens of rounds (like any modern handgun).
Exact same fucking shit as people would use to bitch and sensationalize other incidents, but in this case Alex Pretti wasn't a fucking mass murderer. They'll complain about the media calling the gun a mass child murderer uses an "assault weapon", but the moment someone actually exercises their 2nd Amendment rights properly, suddenly they're happily repeat the same shit because it benefits them.
Likewise, while I appreciate a lot of people waking up to it, it's frustrating how many people on "the left" (liberal Dems mostly) who were unbelievably ignorant about firearms and were vehemently opposed to any amount of private firearm ownership, suddenly caring about the 2nd Amendment and parroting off "shall not be infringed", as I feel like it's not a principled stance and they're just saying it because it's "their side" now. If they're actually realizing it's kinda important, good for them, but it's still frustrating how many people care solely because it's "their side"
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 226d
I’ve been a leftist gun owner for about ten years now, and I’m happy to see people on my side coming over. I still think it should be limited to well organized militias (like it says in the constitution), but that would still let states defend themselves from the federal government.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 226d
back then that idiom meant “for our rights to continue to exist, the right to use weapons will not be infringed.”
I still don't see the point of muddling what it meant then now, when the 🇺🇲 has been crushing well organized militias for centuries.
apftwb@lemmy.world · 55 pts · 227d
Why would MAGA suggest bringing water for tear gas to a peaceful protest 🤔
eatCasserole@lemmy.world · 29 pts · 227d
And first aid supplies 🤔
FatVegan@leminal.space · 18 pts · 227d
And your id.
Phil_in_here@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 227d
And a bit of cash for the nice ICE men to find when they're done with you.
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 227d
Don't you know that arresting officer is a tipped position in America‽
Doubleohdonut@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 226d
Don't forget a glass of sherry, a mince pie and a carrot for the reindeer
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 226d
And a succulent chinese meal.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 227d
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 227d
Do not bring your ID
Also, I love that they're just acknowledging peaceful protests involve getting pepper sprayed nowadays
stickly@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 226d
What's the logic with no ID? Biometric ID and surveillance data is advanced enough that you will get ID'd if you're arrested/kidnapped anyway.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 226d
Nazi Rhet: “We need to identify how to kill’em: point blank, in a Porta-Potty, or in our deathcamp”
If it's a native born caucasian, they choose the last option, even if they failed that thrice already.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 226d
Bring your ID, DONT bring your phone, or Fitbit/smart watch. DONT get caught.
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 154d
The only time ID is ever required is while driving. If you're not driving to the protest, don't bring ID. There's no reason to have it.
Diplomjodler3@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 227d
What about "muh ammenment"?
zikzak025@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 227d
Guns for me but not for thee
VerilyFemme@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 32 pts · 226d
Alex Pretti was a nurse, literally there to adminster first aid if necessary. It feels like I've heard this attitude on another side of this debate before.
(Oh, and Alex Pretti didn't kill anyone.)
lemmydripzdotz456@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 227d
Do bring a gun. Don't bring an ID. Do wear a mask. Don't miss.
Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 29 pts · 227d
Don't bring a phone.
DaddleDew@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 227d
They pepper sprayed him, tackled him, piled on him, beat him up and possibly executed him long before they even knew he had a gun.
Meanwhile the ICE goons left alone the peaceful protests that were guarded by openly armed Black Panther members. Makes you think.
NoTagBacks@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 14 pts · 227d
Almost like the gun laws in Cali were made specifically with the Black Panthers in mind or something.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 226d
Almost like most gun laws enacted have been reactionary and racist.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 16 pts · 227d
So semi 9mm automatic is a no, it must means that fully loaded battle rifle is OK ?
officermike@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 227d
Yes, as evidenced by the verdict and right-wing swooning in Kyle Rittenhouse's case.
TribblesBestFriend@startrek.website · 20 pts · 227d
::: spoiler Tap for spoiler I love that’s the first picture when I search for his name :::
Ilovethebomb@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 227d
A big part of that is Rittenhouse wasn't attacked by the police.
Grilipper54@sh.itjust.works · -2 pts · 226d
A lot of people were mad at me when that trial went on with Rittenhouse because I believed the footage pretty clearly proved self defense. He was an idiot asking for trouble but it was self defense. Now with Renee and Alex, anybody who believes ICE was acting in self defense is out of their damn mind.
BeardededSquidward@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 226d
It was a sham of a trial. Rittenhouse should never have been there to begin with and threw away the first tenant of self defense by GOING somewhere that would possibly be dangerous.
P00ptart@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 226d
True, but by law that isn't illegal. It's the intent that made what he did illegal.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 226d
The picture doesn't show a loaded handgun.
But okay, here's some Molotov cocktails instead you fucking bastards.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 5 pts · 226d
They are implying that it should be empty when you get stripped searched.
the worse part: it says “semi-auto”
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 11 pts · 226d
Half of that list is for not-peaceful protests.
And btw, police in fighting gear posing with a gun, is not for peaceful protests either.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 226d
They are hypocrites can be ignored as such
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 4 pts · 226d
Yeah, but this is admonishment of the recent anti arm rhetorics I have seen on threadiverse. Every anti arm person you have read is probably a Nazi, and should be skeptically rebuked.
I have dealt with 4 already.
lennybird@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 227d
Surely Rittenhouse will say this is hypocritical, right...!?
Fermion@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 227d
Pardon me?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 227d
As in you need this rephrased, or your honest reaction?
Fermion@mander.xyz · 8 pts · 227d
It's a double entendre because firstly this is absurd, and also a vague reference to how when Trumps insurrectionists show up with guns they just get pardoned instead of executed.
I'll admit it's a bit of a stretch as far as jokes go.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 3 pts · 227d
😯🙇♀️
doingthestuff@lemy.lol · 1 pts · 227d
They only found three civilians with guns on Jan 6th and the one woman who got killed didn't have one. I get what you're saying though.
I would say that you probably don't want to bring a gun to a protest if you're going to break the law. Even if you avoid being executed, you could face much harsher charges and lose your 2nd amendment rights. I carry but I'm also very aware of laws where I do.
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 200d
This is more correct.
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 200d
And guns.
Nazis have to be eradicated by force.
njm1314@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 226d
Guess I really understand why they keep focusing on phrases like fully loaded. Why wouldn't my gun be fully loaded?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 2 pts · 226d
Rhetorics: “You mean to fire all 12 rounds to kill 11 more people‽”
Valmond@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 227d
You're still at peaceful protests eh?
muusemuuse@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 225d
I offer an alternative.
What to bring: thanos’ glove complete with infinity stones
What not to bring: Disney’s control over that IP
theunknownmuncher@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 154d
LOL glows like the sun
Amuletta@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 221d
No mention of bear spray?
AntiBullyRanger@ani.social · 1 pts · 221d
Did the Nazis use 🐻🧯 in the last protests?