No it does not mean "nothing", it's short for Thanatos which is a name for the fraudian concept of "death drive", the drive compelling organisms to kill and destroy
Yes I know what you really meant but I got curious about where the name came from
Thanatos is the name of the Greek god/personification of the moment of death. Freud (lol fraud) would've been using that name as everyone reading his work would have been familiar with The Illiad and other works featuring Thanatos.
It's always funny to hear Christians say God is perfect and never makes mistakes then say God had to start over because the time before Noah was a mistake.
This is kind of more complicated than you'd think. Mostly because after the industrial revolution the population of the world exploded and there are far more people now than there used to be. For example, the world population today is ~8 billion, while in 1930 it was only around 2 billion. If you go back to the ancient world, the population was only about 300 million people in 1 AD. Now of course trying to estimate a theoretical antediluvian population is kind of impossible since the Bible doesn't contain any census data until the next book, but if we take the date usually given by Creationists of ~2000 BC then the population would have been between 20 and 70 million. So still higher than Hitler* but not by as much as you might think.
*This is if you only attribute Holocaust deaths to Hitler. Hitler killed many more people than just the victims of the Holocaust and you could make the argument that most of the people who died in the European theater in died as a result of Hitler, and by that metric Noah actually loses to Hitler here.
Lysenko forced farmers to plant seeds very close together since, according to his "law of the life of species", plants from the same "class" never compete with one another.[9] Lysenko played an active role in the famines that killed millions of Soviet people and his practices prolonged and exacerbated the food shortages.[9] The People's Republic of China under Mao Zedong adopted his methods starting in 1958, with calamitous results, contributing to the Great Chinese Famine of 1959 to 1962, in which some 15–55 million people died.[note 1][9]
Even the Gulag system only killed 1 million of the 18 million people who passed through it. Most survived internment.
That's our procedure during a school lock down as well. Lock the door and hide in silence. No one gets in or out.
If someone is stuck in the hallway, we cannot open the door for anyone.
That's the procedure.
I think we can't really count the 40 million as his kills, unless we count all the descendants of the other mongols who raped their way across the continent, and I think that would tip the scales towards fuck winning.
I go back-and-forth with that data point. Because while that is measurable and does exist, there's also tons of data to the contrary.
Here:
researchers argue that the “Genghis-Khan-caused global cooling” idea is overstated: the modeled CO₂ drop from Mongol-era depopulation is extremely small (far below what’s visible in ice cores), natural forces like volcanic eruptions and solar variability overwhelmingly dominate climate shifts of that period, population-loss estimates are highly uncertain, any localized reforestation would have been offset by land-use changes elsewhere, and no clear cooling signal appears in proxy climate records at the exact time of the Mongol conquests.
Who to say Noah wasn't from an advanced civilization. Do you think America and half the west would survive a 40 day flood. We can't survive a 2 day flood.
Hitler or Stalin didn't kill those people personally, they just commanded others to kill them. Probably some suicide bomber killed the most people directly.
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givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 213d
If we're including fiction then whoever pressed the button on the Death Star to blow up Alderran...
Or probably just like some random dude from Warhammer 40k
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 213d
Does the name Thanos mean nothing?
ignotum@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
No it does not mean "nothing", it's short for Thanatos which is a name for the fraudian concept of "death drive", the drive compelling organisms to kill and destroy
Yes I know what you really meant but I got curious about where the name came from
TheOctonaut@mander.xyz · 7 pts · 213d
Thanatos is the name of the Greek god/personification of the moment of death. Freud (lol fraud) would've been using that name as everyone reading his work would have been familiar with The Illiad and other works featuring Thanatos.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 213d
It's where Thanos got his name too.
In the OG comics his only motivation was to impress Death because he was in love with her. So he killed as many people for no other reason.
I think Death just loved Deathpool instead tho, because he was what she could never have?
Anyways, all the OG nerds learned about Thanatos from Venture Bros:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyP1UIHUAz4
ignotum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 213d
Lol both my google-fu and phone autocorrect failed me
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d
We're being technical here...
Thanos did kill a lot of people, but the snap didn't kill a single life.
So he might be on top, but I'd assume most of the time he ordered people to press buttons to destroy planets.
So if we're using that, it's whoever was ordering the Sith around when the death Star did it.
Palpatine?
Honestly no idea how they'd stack up.
ChicoSuave@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 213d
It's always funny to hear Christians say God is perfect and never makes mistakes then say God had to start over because the time before Noah was a mistake.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 213d
As Eddie Izzard so eloquently put it:
"What is this, the Etch-a-Sketch end of the world?"
DirtyAnCom@discuss.online · 6 pts · 213d
Not to mention the story of creation, itself. "Oops, my perfect being defied me... EXILED!"
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 213d
In 10000bc the world population is estimated to be between 1-10 million people
Depending on the year you could kill everyone on earth and it wouldn’t even be close to the Holocaust
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 11 pts · 213d
I don't know about ten million, but the guy who estimated a world population of ONE PEOPLE was way off!
gustofwind@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 213d
Well it was definitely at least 1
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 213d
Hmm, good point 🤔
PapaStevesy@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
Plus God sent the flood, not Noah. And Noah tried to warn people iirc, but people understandably laughed him off.
superfes@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 213d
Dude would totally be a psychopath if he was real.
5715@feddit.org · 14 pts · 213d
he would be humanity's ark enemy
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 213d
TomMasz@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 213d
He did bring some family. Who, by extension, repopulated the world. Like when the sons of Adam and Eve got married.
Agent641@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 213d
Mosquitos: "Pathetic."
markovs_gun@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 212d
This is kind of more complicated than you'd think. Mostly because after the industrial revolution the population of the world exploded and there are far more people now than there used to be. For example, the world population today is ~8 billion, while in 1930 it was only around 2 billion. If you go back to the ancient world, the population was only about 300 million people in 1 AD. Now of course trying to estimate a theoretical antediluvian population is kind of impossible since the Bible doesn't contain any census data until the next book, but if we take the date usually given by Creationists of ~2000 BC then the population would have been between 20 and 70 million. So still higher than Hitler* but not by as much as you might think.
*This is if you only attribute Holocaust deaths to Hitler. Hitler killed many more people than just the victims of the Holocaust and you could make the argument that most of the people who died in the European theater in died as a result of Hitler, and by that metric Noah actually loses to Hitler here.
DarkCloud@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 213d
The vast majority of "Stalin's" deaths were from Lysenkoism rarher than Stalin directly.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trofim_Lysenko#Consequences_of_Lysenko's_views
Even the Gulag system only killed 1 million of the 18 million people who passed through it. Most survived internment.
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 213d
I just realized I don't really know about Noah's story. So did all of humanity drown? How'd he repopulate it?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 213d
Pretty much just a shitload of incest AFAIK
lime@feddit.nu · 7 pts · 213d
well random people just sort of show up after a while, just like in the adam and eve part of genesis
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Pssssst...incest!
Many Christians really claim that, too. Source: grew up a pastor's kid.
remon@ani.social · 8 pts · 212d
k0e3@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 212d
lmao this is fucked up
Rooster326@programming.dev · 6 pts · 212d
Anime harem
Dasus@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 212d
Yeah uhm from real people.
If you're still a Christian in your adulthood you've either not read the Bible, you're dumb as shit, or you're just afraid of your family judging you.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 212d
Probably more than one of the above in most cases 🤷
El_guapazo@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 213d
That's our procedure during a school lock down as well. Lock the door and hide in silence. No one gets in or out. If someone is stuck in the hallway, we cannot open the door for anyone. That's the procedure.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 213d
Where's the ghengis Kahn reference?
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 5 pts · 213d
Did he kill the most, or fuck the most? 🤔
Rooster326@programming.dev · 3 pts · 212d
It is known from the ancient text he created the game we call today as : Kill, Fuck, Marry
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
Yes
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 213d
Kill, I think.
Fuck: He has about 18 million living descendants today.
Kill: about 30 to 40 million.
Source: i Googled that
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 2 pts · 213d
I think we can't really count the 40 million as his kills, unless we count all the descendants of the other mongols who raped their way across the continent, and I think that would tip the scales towards fuck winning.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 213d
That conjures mental images of a very interesting scale 😄
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 213d
Id review that hell out of that data. Fascinating to learn if they created or ended more life.....as a team.
ProfessorHoover@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 213d
Well there's a study saying that the Mongol pillaging led to a small but measurable drop in global temperature so I'm going with kill.
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 213d
I go back-and-forth with that data point. Because while that is measurable and does exist, there's also tons of data to the contrary.
Here: researchers argue that the “Genghis-Khan-caused global cooling” idea is overstated: the modeled CO₂ drop from Mongol-era depopulation is extremely small (far below what’s visible in ice cores), natural forces like volcanic eruptions and solar variability overwhelmingly dominate climate shifts of that period, population-loss estimates are highly uncertain, any localized reforestation would have been offset by land-use changes elsewhere, and no clear cooling signal appears in proxy climate records at the exact time of the Mongol conquests.
NannerBanner@literature.cafe · 1 pts · 213d
Point of order though: is one sexy time counted as one fuck, or is all the sex, as long as it's the same partner, counted as one fuck?
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 213d
Excellent question, perhaps we should separate sex and childbirth from sex.
Aneb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
Who to say Noah wasn't from an advanced civilization. Do you think America and half the west would survive a 40 day flood. We can't survive a 2 day flood.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 212d
Or more likely, the whole thing is made up.
mika_mika@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 213d
Ancient astronaut theorists would agree.
Rooster326@programming.dev · 1 pts · 212d
Isn't that the point?
TheLeadenSea@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 213d
Hitler or Stalin didn't kill those people personally, they just commanded others to kill them. Probably some suicide bomber killed the most people directly.
mech@feddit.org · 8 pts · 213d
My guess would be the guy who pushed the button to release the atom bomb on Hiroshima.