"Age 10" with DSC06964.JPG

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01743628.pdf

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makingStuffForFun@lemmy.ml · 207 pts · 204d (9 replies)

There is no possible justification to blacking out those names. What a disgrace.

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 102 pts · 204d

After the DonT redaction debacle, I simply assume these are all Trump

Opisek@piefed.blahaj.zone · 50 pts · 204d (6 replies)

By now I'm convinced they just let some slop machine black out all names except for some whitelisted stuff. I mean, we've seen a link in the bash manual, the face of Mona Lisa, and occurrences of just the word "don't" blacked out. Why would it be any different for people's names.

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 44 pts · 204d (4 replies)

They've left some names and photos of victims unredacted. But the names of the actual conspirators are all thoroughly redacted.

artyom@piefed.social · 47 pts · 204d (3 replies)

They left nude photos of underage victims unredacted. The DOJ literally spread CSAM.

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social · 29 pts · 204d (2 replies)

For anyone curious, AP News did a piece on this in more detail.

The most chilling part of it for me was this one.

In some photos reviewed by The AP, those redactions did obscure women’s faces, but left plenty of their bare skin exposed in a way that would likely embarrass the women anyway. Photos showed identifiable women trying on outfits in clothing store dressing rooms or lounging in bathing suits.

One set of more than 100 images of a young woman were nearly all blacked out, save for the very last image, which revealed her entire face.

GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 204d (1 reply)

I wonder if these victims could push for charges relating to "revenge porn" against the DOJ or even the president himself if they can construct the narrative that the DOJ was acting on his orders.

AmbitiousProcess@piefed.social · 2 pts · 203d

Maybe. I'm no lawyer, but it would probably be hard to do. For example, here's a few excerpts from a page on Congress.gov talking about the TAKE IT DOWN act:

The Act makes it unlawful in certain circumstances for any person to [...] "knowingly publish" either an "intimate visual depiction" or a "digital forgery" of an identifiable individual.

...which means the DOJ would have to be caught on record having an employee go like "I think we should publish this girl's face alongside all these nudes for the heck of it!", or having an employee go "I'm not gonna bother censoring that one, I'm too lazy", something like that, which makes it clear they did it on purpose and didn't just like, forget to censor a photo because there were a lot of them.

However, it does state:

The terms "knowingly" and "publish" are not defined in the Act or the statute that it amends.

...which means the definition of "knowingly" in this case could be up to the courts. For example, a judge might say "you might not have chosen to leave it uncensored on record, but knowing the content would include explicit images, you did not check all the images to be sure before releasing them, therefore you knew it could happen and went along with it"

The second part is much harder to solve which is:

For the publication-related offenses involving depictions of adults, the government must show that, in addition to knowingly publishing the material, the defendant intended the publication to cause harm, or that the publication did cause the identifiable individual harm, "including psychological, financial, or reputational harm." The offenses involving depictions of adults also contain elements regarding consent and content

Proving harm is much harder, since you can't just rely on the fact the images were out there, but that the victim knew and was harmed psychologically, or didn't know but was harmed in some other way, and you have to do that for every victim you want to claim under this act.

Even the minors part still has problems:

The publication offenses involving depictions of minors do not have the same consent and content elements. Criminal liability attaches if the defendant knowingly publishes the depictions and intends to "abuse, humiliate, harass or degrade the minor" or "arouse or gratify the sexual desire of any person."

...since it's hard to prove they did it specifically to arouse someone, or to abuse/humiliate/harass/degrade that minor.

Essentially, TLDR, it's almost certainly never going to happen, but there is still a theoretical chance that with enough evidence of it being intentional, you could get someone arrested, though it would probably be some specific person responsible for the censoring of that dump of images rather than anyone high up.

Kalothar@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 204d

I assume Mona Lisa‘s face being covered was Because a Victim’s face was pasted on that photo

KairuByte@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 204d

I mean, I can think of one. If this was a child sending pics of themselves while saying their age.

Not likely in the slightest, but technically possible.

BigMacHole@sopuli.xyz · 42 pts · 204d

10? SEE! She's NOT A Child!

-LITERALLY the SAME People that call Drag Queens pedophiles!

Lioffproxy@lemmy.world · 35 pts · 204d

Why is it redacted? If this wasn't so dark it would be comical

bazus1@lemmy.world · 33 pts · 204d (2 replies)

Jesus f'n christ. Anyone that didn't reply back with, "10?!? You're a monster" is complicit and needs to go down.

D_C@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 204d (1 reply)

Nope.
They need to go up...a tree, attached to the end of a noose.

bazus1@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d

I support this course of action.

halcyoncmdr@piefed.social · 27 pts · 204d (6 replies)

Clearly they're talking about Ash Ketchum.

cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 204d (5 replies)

Or a whiskey...

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 204d (4 replies)

You'd say "10-year-old" for a whiskey I think, not "age 10".

Zozano@aussie.zone · 9 pts · 204d (3 replies)

You'd also say "10-year-old" if asking for a kid to fuck.

morphballganon@lemmynsfw.com · 2 pts · 204d

Not necessarily. Might also be referring to "what age was she when x happened," not "I'd like to place an order for a meeting with someone with this trait"

floofloof@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 204d (1 reply)

Would you? I'm not familiar with the linguistic conventions for child rape requests. I have more experience with whisky.

Zozano@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 204d

A few 'neats usually precedes asking the child connoisseur for a neat ten-year-old.

agingelderly@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 204d

Maybe Trump was sending pics of Ivana

BlueEther@no.lastname.nz · 17 pts · 204d

From my comment in th cross-posted thread:

There are several others from what look like the same person:

https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01743615.pdf.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01744660.pdf.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01743644.pdf.
https://www.justice.gov/epstein/files/DataSet%2010/EFTA01743632.pdf.

Then there are others that looks like from the same person that still have the images (semi-redacted) and they look quite young (mid teens?)

<edit_01> They sign one:

Love A

Someonelol@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 16 pts · 204d

I bet it's not a bottle of aged liquor in that attached pic.

nymnympseudonym@piefed.social · 13 pts · 204d (2 replies)

Holdup, where is attachment DSC0964.JPG in the files?

bdonvr@thelemmy.club · 64 pts · 204d

I'm guessing good chance it's not legal to have on your computer

rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 204d

In the other 3m pages they didn't release. I can't imagine what's in that pile of shit.

Formfiller@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 204d

boaratio@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 203d

What. The. Fuck.

Avicenna@programming.dev · 4 pts · 202d

redacted part seems like about the same length as Donald Duck's email

rollerbang@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 203d

They must have taken it from Hasan's playbook: "old enough to count, old enough to mount".

What a disgrace.

Serinus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 204d

Does someone have the files to just post (presumably appropriately redacted) dsc06964.jpg?

tatterdemalion@programming.dev · 1 pts · 202d

In base 18!

m4xie@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 203d (1 reply)

Why is the subject redacted?

Jerkface@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 203d

Name of a victim, I would imagine.