No it's common for ADHD ppl because most stimulants have a paradox reaction. That's why you get meth and amphetamines.
I mean most are also caffeine addicts.
But it doesn't work because we are addicts
Well you source is kinda ... bad.
In medicine a paradoxical reaction is described as a reaction which is basically unexpected.
Your source is throwing things together that are not right in this way. It basically conflated research over methylphenidate, a very common ADHD medication, with all stimulants and a lot of narcotics.
Methylphenidate has no paradox reaction, because it also works in non ADHD children - just not as strong.
While there are not systematic medical trials on Coffein there are a lot of weaker studies on it that show a high amount of evidence that it has a calming effect. The discussion here is if this isn't the same in the normal population too, not if it has a calming effect.
The source you had makes claims and then does not show any evidence for these btw.
If you were read in on the actual literature you wouldn't be making claims based on debunked forty year old studies, so you got a casual article written by a PhD for the casual audience, aka people like you who get their science from social media.
From what I currently can infer you are not willing to discuss anything just to flame others. It starts with you being insulting in claiming others are addicts you proceed in using an intentional week souce that just copied wikipedia and changed one word basically and then start to use a hominem when called out on it. Further you use basically the same pattern than any other conspiracy theorist.
For me you just seem like a bad faith actor and not interested in discussion now.
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vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 224d
Undiagnosed ADHD life.
hayvan@piefed.world · 14 pts · 224d
As a caffeine addict, having a little bit in the evening actually helps me sleep.
altec@midwest.social · 12 pts · 224d
This is common for ADHD
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 223d
It's common for addicts, and ADHD peeps are commonly addicts.
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 222d
No it's common for ADHD ppl because most stimulants have a paradox reaction. That's why you get meth and amphetamines. I mean most are also caffeine addicts. But it doesn't work because we are addicts
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 222d
That's a debunked claim from the 80's as it happens.
https://www.adhd.nyc/single-post/2018/03/28/the-paradoxical-effect-from-misunderstanding-how-stimulants-worked-to-understanding-whe
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 221d
Well you source is kinda ... bad. In medicine a paradoxical reaction is described as a reaction which is basically unexpected. Your source is throwing things together that are not right in this way. It basically conflated research over methylphenidate, a very common ADHD medication, with all stimulants and a lot of narcotics.
Methylphenidate has no paradox reaction, because it also works in non ADHD children - just not as strong. While there are not systematic medical trials on Coffein there are a lot of weaker studies on it that show a high amount of evidence that it has a calming effect. The discussion here is if this isn't the same in the normal population too, not if it has a calming effect.
The source you had makes claims and then does not show any evidence for these btw.
DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social · 1 pts · 221d
If you were read in on the actual literature you wouldn't be making claims based on debunked forty year old studies, so you got a casual article written by a PhD for the casual audience, aka people like you who get their science from social media.
Feel free to prove your own claims btw.
DeadDigger@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 220d
From what I currently can infer you are not willing to discuss anything just to flame others. It starts with you being insulting in claiming others are addicts you proceed in using an intentional week souce that just copied wikipedia and changed one word basically and then start to use a hominem when called out on it. Further you use basically the same pattern than any other conspiracy theorist.
For me you just seem like a bad faith actor and not interested in discussion now.
lath@piefed.social · 14 pts · 224d
I hear caffeine helps some people calm the fuck down.
hopesdead@startrek.website · 9 pts · 224d
It’s named Sleepytime and has extra caffeine?
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 51 pts · 224d
Boring real explanation:
The tea is called "Sleepytime Extra"
The product link is likely supposed to say "Celestial Seasonings Sleepytime Extra Caffeine Free Tea" but is truncated.
huppakee@piefed.social · 4 pts · 224d
So it is tea that is free of extra caffeine?
tiramichu@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 224d
It's sleepytime "extra" because it has extra sleepytime stuff (relaxing herbs or whatever)
And it's caffeine free because it's caffeine free.
huppakee@piefed.social · 3 pts · 224d
Another boring real explanation :(
kofe@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 224d
Needs more jpeg, but the packaging looks like it says extra sleepy time at the bottom left and caffeine free top right
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 7 pts · 224d
Caffeine can help you go to sleep, but you won’t stay asleep.
grue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 224d
Four loko for hippies.
thegoodyinthehoody@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 222d
This so reminds me of the old internet, when Reddit was still just about “look at this funny shit I found”