I just had two kids back to back. Both born in California and at Kaiser. The only thing we had to pay for was my wife's post-partum medication, I think $50 total between both kids.
All prenatal appointments/care? Covered. Two separate scares where wife was admitted overnight? Covered. Both births with epidurals and overnight stays and meals(for mom)? Covered. We didn't even pay for parking.
Idk if it's because we planned this and intentionally had a HMO plan, but wanted to share my recent experience.
While I appreciate the personal anecdote, what was the cost paid by your insurer? Being covered by private insurance is great for you, but what happens to the people without the means?
The subtext of your post is an insinuation that it isn't as bad as others make it out to be, but it sounds like it wasn't bad for you because you have good private insurance, and the means to obtain and manage that insurance. Not everyone is in that situation, and those who don't have access to good private insurance, or simply make a mistake in managing their insurance, shouldn't be forced to pay absurd fees out of debt/pocket.
I don't know what the cost for my insurer was, because we never even got a bill in the mail. I even called the financial office or whatever it's called for Kaiser and made sure we didn't owe anything and they said that we were covered and owed nothing out of pocket.
My post was a reflection of my own personal anecdote because I see stuff online all the time that insurance is terrible in the US and that we all pay $20k for a birth when that isn't the case for everyone. I mean if the average is $18k then someone is definitely paying that amount(or more, because average) but some also pay zero. My post wasn't meant to diminish. I also think all of this should be free for everyone anyway.
I do also think some people pay more than they have to, as in they are having unprotected sex and can switch to a HMO over a PPO, but they stay on the PPO plan because it's "cheap" and end up paying $20k for a birth when they could've switched to a HMO before hand and paid the $50-$500 a month(depending on employer or if your state has a marketplace) and saved the difference. But they don't think that far ahead.
So when my wife was have an emergency with our first she had to be rushed to the hospital (non network). My insurance would not cover and that one visit was almost 200k.
Dont get me started on the cost from the actual birth. Since it too happened out of network.
So you are telling me in all English speaking countries the babies get de-livered (even though the liver is kinda important !?!?) AND the babies with a penis don't get the chance to get visited by the foreskin fairy when they're older, like the rest of us?
She once mentioned she didn't know what trash was until she got to s korea. Also that her n korean town officials would require a quota of poop from her family for composting.
What sticks w me the most is how often she's spoken at the united nations and how ineffective it is.
38 Comments
mech@feddit.org · 90 pts · 196d
In America, a birth in hospital costs $18000 on average.
(plus tip)
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 28 pts · 196d
Oh god. This is gonna get weird ...
haerrii@feddit.org · 35 pts · 196d
[Checkout terminal] How much do you want to tip:
10 % (poor man's foreskin)
15 %
25 % (public favorite)
nothing at all (🥺)
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 196d
25% ( pubic favourite)
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 196d
🍆
Skullgrid@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 196d
the tip goes directly to the hospital CEO's pockets
eli@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
I just had two kids back to back. Both born in California and at Kaiser. The only thing we had to pay for was my wife's post-partum medication, I think $50 total between both kids.
All prenatal appointments/care? Covered. Two separate scares where wife was admitted overnight? Covered. Both births with epidurals and overnight stays and meals(for mom)? Covered. We didn't even pay for parking.
Idk if it's because we planned this and intentionally had a HMO plan, but wanted to share my recent experience.
Glide@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 196d
While I appreciate the personal anecdote, what was the cost paid by your insurer? Being covered by private insurance is great for you, but what happens to the people without the means?
The subtext of your post is an insinuation that it isn't as bad as others make it out to be, but it sounds like it wasn't bad for you because you have good private insurance, and the means to obtain and manage that insurance. Not everyone is in that situation, and those who don't have access to good private insurance, or simply make a mistake in managing their insurance, shouldn't be forced to pay absurd fees out of debt/pocket.
eli@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 196d
I don't know what the cost for my insurer was, because we never even got a bill in the mail. I even called the financial office or whatever it's called for Kaiser and made sure we didn't owe anything and they said that we were covered and owed nothing out of pocket.
My post was a reflection of my own personal anecdote because I see stuff online all the time that insurance is terrible in the US and that we all pay $20k for a birth when that isn't the case for everyone. I mean if the average is $18k then someone is definitely paying that amount(or more, because average) but some also pay zero. My post wasn't meant to diminish. I also think all of this should be free for everyone anyway.
I do also think some people pay more than they have to, as in they are having unprotected sex and can switch to a HMO over a PPO, but they stay on the PPO plan because it's "cheap" and end up paying $20k for a birth when they could've switched to a HMO before hand and paid the $50-$500 a month(depending on employer or if your state has a marketplace) and saved the difference. But they don't think that far ahead.
zuch0698o@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 196d
So when my wife was have an emergency with our first she had to be rushed to the hospital (non network). My insurance would not cover and that one visit was almost 200k.
Dont get me started on the cost from the actual birth. Since it too happened out of network.
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 29 pts · 196d
I had my buddy believing for a while that all Jewish boys keep their foreskins and turn it in for a free trip to Israel
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 19 pts · 196d
Makes as much sense as anything else tbh
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · 0 pts · 196d
Some of us had to find ours hidden in a chocolate egg by a bunny on the anniversary when our savior became a zombie.
MTZ@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 196d
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 196d
No foreskins allowed, even.
abbadon420@sh.itjust.works · 28 pts · 196d
Release the Epstein foreskins!
FreshLight@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 196d
So you are telling me in all English speaking countries the babies get de-livered (even though the liver is kinda important !?!?) AND the babies with a penis don't get the chance to get visited by the foreskin fairy when they're older, like the rest of us?
That's crazy
yesman@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 196d
The reason circumcision is common in the US has more to do with people like RFK jr. than it does with people like Epstein.
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 196d
That woman looks like a sex robot. Maybe just a bad picture? There’s something odd about her face.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 7 pts · 196d
It's recognizably the same person as the wiki page, but ya. She's uncanny valley in that pic.
Tedesche@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 195d
Yeah, bad pic.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 3 pts · 195d
Bad reality. I think sex robot would be a lot more fun than this woman.
incompetent@programming.dev · 1 pts · 195d
I thought AI at first.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 196d
this is the wrong thread to be sitting here eating a bowl of spicy chili watermelon rings
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 196d
God she's had so much work. N Korea fucked her up bad
LORDSMEGMA@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 196d
Who?
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 196d
Yeonmi Park
MTZ@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
Who is this woman?
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 196d
Yeonmi Park
lagoon8622@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 196d
Is it that glowy that "defected" "from" "NK"? Just guessing honestly
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 196d
Yeonmi Park
Nomorereddit@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 196d
She once mentioned she didn't know what trash was until she got to s korea. Also that her n korean town officials would require a quota of poop from her family for composting.
What sticks w me the most is how often she's spoken at the united nations and how ineffective it is.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 195d
I wish I still had my foreskin.
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 4 pts · 194d
Pics or it didn't happen.
daggermoon@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 194d
I have a shy penis.
tresspass@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
Is this the "jerky" that is repeatedly mentioned in the files?
ivanafterall@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 195d
Forbidden calimari.
morphballganon@mtgzone.com · -6 pts · 196d
It's related because men with ugly penises are much more likely to become sex pests since they struggle to get consensual action
dbtng@eviltoast.org · 0 pts · 196d
Show us yours.