I've written a few popups. Yes, we are aware, I generally dismiss them too. They're almost always an anti-pattern / anti-user design anyway, so I try to avoid them. They are, I think without exception, thought train breakers and annoyances, even in cases where they may actually be useful.
Am I the only one who's pro-tipping? I feel the need to apologize for making people do work. If you told me I wasn't allowed to tip I'd be leaving cash on the counter and running off.
In the region of the world I’m from, waiter unions themselves are against tipping. The reasons I have heard are that
wage negotiations should not happen between customers and employees
the principle of everyone’s salary being enough to cover all costs of living
neither customer nor employee will benefit from service staff having too low wages
worker’s rights cannot practically be built using funds from tipping
normalising tipping will be used by the employer as an argument to pay below liveable wages
That being said, waiters are given a liveable wage here. And locals also sometimes tip for great service. But that’s just a bonus for the waiter, not the expectation.
I would personally suggest you reevaluate your pro-tipping stance given the above, but I don’t know where in the world you’re from, nor how waiters are treated or paid there
I'm generally anti-tipping since it gives shitty employers a fig leaf to pay their workers an unlivable wage, but I still tip if I'm at an establishment where workers depend on tips. The system ain't their fault.
I think you'll find most people have no problem with tipping, only with forced tipping or the cultural pressure to tip. Most people dont want to stop you from tipping if you would like to.
18 Comments
realitista@lemmus.org · 18 pts · 184d
I wonder if everyone who writes popups of all stripes is cognizant of how many of us just dismiss them all instantly without nary a glance.
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 184d
I've written a few popups. Yes, we are aware, I generally dismiss them too. They're almost always an anti-pattern / anti-user design anyway, so I try to avoid them. They are, I think without exception, thought train breakers and annoyances, even in cases where they may actually be useful.
drosophila@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 183d
Even if they could be used for something productive that's impossible now because of their extreme over-use and abuse.
realitista@lemmus.org · 1 pts · 183d
But yet they persist
Randelung@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
Apps love popups right when you start it to tell you something important. Guess I'll never know because my muscle memory was quicker than my eyes.
realitista@lemmus.org · 3 pts · 183d
Yep. I've made sure to never learn anything from a popup.
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 7 pts · 183d
It's easier IRL since you can just leave without paying 😌
RodgeGrabTheCat@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 184d
No tip screen if one pays with cash.
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 183d
the ones with popups hiding the no tip screen are diabolical
DrWorm@piefed.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 184d
tja@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 183d
Gonzako@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 183d
ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -6 pts · 184d
Am I the only one who's pro-tipping? I feel the need to apologize for making people do work. If you told me I wasn't allowed to tip I'd be leaving cash on the counter and running off.
skrlet13@feddit.cl · 29 pts · 184d
Unfortunately tips in many places are used so employers don't have to pay fair wages. The point of "no tips" is to demand fair wages from the start.
aaa@lemmy.zip · 14 pts · 183d
In the region of the world I’m from, waiter unions themselves are against tipping. The reasons I have heard are that
That being said, waiters are given a liveable wage here. And locals also sometimes tip for great service. But that’s just a bonus for the waiter, not the expectation.
I would personally suggest you reevaluate your pro-tipping stance given the above, but I don’t know where in the world you’re from, nor how waiters are treated or paid there
queerlilhayseed@piefed.blahaj.zone · 13 pts · 184d
I'm generally anti-tipping since it gives shitty employers a fig leaf to pay their workers an unlivable wage, but I still tip if I'm at an establishment where workers depend on tips. The system ain't their fault.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 11 pts · 183d
I think you'll find most people have no problem with tipping, only with forced tipping or the cultural pressure to tip. Most people dont want to stop you from tipping if you would like to.
SuiXi3D@fedia.io · 1 pts · 184d
Not my job to make up for the fact that their employer can’t pay a living wage.
attempt@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 184d