cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/43147928
I built a note-taking app because the one I wanted didn't exist. Clean UI, local .md files, no cloud, no account.
Built with Rust + Tauri 2.0 + SvelteKit. Full-text search powered by Tantivy. Graph view, AI writing tools (bring your own key), Obsidian import, version history.
Available for Linux (AppImage, APT, AUR), Windows, and macOS. Source: https://codeberg.org/ArkHost/HelixNotes
35 Comments
vort3@lemmy.ml · 10 pts · 170d
Do I get it right that this is like Obsidian, but free and open source?
How does it compare to Obsidian? Does it have note linking using square brackets?
Not to be rude or anything like that, where I'm going is not the "we already have obsidian, why you made this" but "currently obsidian is one of the few non-FOSS things I use in Linux, would be happy to replace obsidian with this if it's a good substitute".
I don't use obsidian plugins, so I understand that HelixNotes doesn't have this whole plugin ecosystem and can't replace obsidian for people that rely on plugins, but for me it's fine.
Is android app coming?
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 169d
Yes, local-first markdown like Obsidian, but fully open source (AGPL-3.0).
Note linking with square brackets - yes, supported. Graph view too so you can see connections between notes.
If you don't rely on Obsidian plugins, you'll feel right at home.
Android is on the roadmap, but the desktop experience comes first. Still early days.
vort3@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 169d
Thanks, gotta try this!
Well, there's Markor on android, so even without a dedicated android app, I can use Helix Notes + syncthing + Markor on the phone and ditch obsidian if it's good.
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 169d
That's exactly the way I do it. However, the mobile app is something that will be made in the near future.
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
Have a look at Trilium. Anything Obsidian can do, it does better. And syncing is native.
JustEnoughDucks@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 169d
Can trillium store all files in markdown/plaintext?
How is the theming by trillium? I use a light tan interface because it is much easier on my eyes, personally than high contrast white or eye-straining dark themes.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 169d
So, I recently abandoned Trilium, because it's very half-assed.
It stores data in a database on your local file system, and you can export as markdown.
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
What do you mean "half-assed"? I manage very large collections of notes with it, in ways that no other PKMS can, just because none of them approach "note as data" (or "typed notes") in a way that Trilium does.
My #1 criteria is for all my notes to remain consistent over time. If I create a note type for "Projects", I want all notes representing a Project to have the same properties (start date, location, cost, ...) at all time. Trilium has very neat concepts like Templates and Attributes Inheritance that make changes on the template be reflected on instances. That's something even AnyType, Notion, Capacities, Logseq, Tena and others are struggling with. When your collection grows, so does your bookkeeping with those systems, and what should be a tool to help you get stuff done ends up giving you more work to do and holding you back. I beg to see a tool that helps my productivity so much.
captain_aggravated@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 169d
I found it buggy and unfinished, plus a "That branch is unmaintained, use this fork" situation, so...nope.
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
Oh, so your experience with Trilium is at least a year old. In the meantime the original dev popped out of their hiatus to formally hand over the project (and the rights over the original repository) to the newly formed community, which has been very active (porting to typescript, internationalisation, porting of the UI to reactive components, full rewrite of the UI, new collections feature, new note types, new doc, new homepage, some LLM APIs, etc).
It's still an opensource project run by volunteers on a best-effort basis, but it punches way above its weight-class.
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
Content is stored in a SQLite db (with options to export to markdown & al.), Trilium is open source, so there's no lock-in and you get the best of both worlds.
You can totally reimplement the whole UI if that's your thing, everything (or close-enough) is a note in Trilium, including themes and other JS/CSS notes that will override or extend parts of the application, like add-ons would elsewhere.
vort3@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 169d
Can you tell me more? Is it FOSS? Is it electron? Is it a UI for a folder of markdown files? Is there a native android app? What is "native" syncing? Do I have to pay for some kind of cloud?
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
You can see by yourself at https://triliumnotes.org/
It's FOSS, it's web so you can use it hosted, or local first as an electron app, or both and then they will sync together.
It is NOT a UI for a folder of markdown files, because that's silly when you expect from your system to hold relationships, metadata, rich note types, notes to coexist in multiple places, etc. Since it's FOSS, and since you can sync your notes real-time and distributed across machines, there's nothing wrong with this.
You can use the web version on Android as a PWA, but it won't sync offline. There are workarounds to run a local server on your device for that use cases (not ideal in terms of user-friendlyness, but gets the job done).
You don't need to pay anything to anyone if you host it yourself or if you keep it local. There is no official hosted plan, some people offer to do that for a tiny fee at https://www.pikapods.com/ (never used them, some people say they are decent).
gabelstapler@feddit.org · 3 pts · 169d
You lost me at electron...
u_tamtam@programming.dev · 1 pts · 169d
How so? Trilium is a web app, that you may use wrapped in an electron shell. Or not. Up to you.
HumbleExaggeration@feddit.org · 1 pts · 170d
According to the page it supports note linking. Isn't obsidian also free as long as you are not using the sync service?
At the moment I am using Anytype, but am looking into obsidian. Lately anytypes development feels kind of strange. They are more an more moving from a note app to a collaboration app. And I wonder how long the note taking will be unaffected by it. So obisidian is becoming more and more interesting, because of the independent markdown format...
vort3@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 170d
Yeah it's free, I just meant "foss", I didn't mean to say obsidian isn't free.
Also I use syncthing, so I don't care about built-in sync as long as it's just a folder of files on my file system.
Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 169d
If you have to use a third party app to sync, it's not local-first, it's just local.
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Local-first means your data lives on your device as the source of truth, not on someone else's server. How you choose to sync it - if at all, is up to you. That's the point.
Masterkraft0r@discuss.tchncs.de · 9 pts · 169d
nope... that's just local.
in that regard every text editor or any software that just CRUDs files locally would be local-first and the term would be meaningless
local-first means that it does not need internet-access to work and use the app and synchronization comes later, when there's time and internet access. please read up on this.
https://www.inkandswitch.com/essay/local-first/
these are the guys who coined the term
edit: i originally wrote "local-first means that it does need internet-access to work and use the app...", which is bullshit and also doesn't make sense in the context. i added the "not" so it is clear.
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 169d
You might be right. I will re-think this :)
beeng@discuss.tchncs.de · 4 pts · 169d
If you like obsidian but like open source, Rust and TUIs too, look into https://www.ekphos.xyz/ it has been nice and fast for me.
bluefishcanteen@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 168d
This is a neat project. Congrats on the release! I'm looking forward to see how this develops!
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
Thanks, appreciate it!
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 169d
Is it related at all to the Helix editor, same shortcuts etc, or is it just a naming coincidence?
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 169d
It's just a naming coincidence. It has nothing to do with the Helix editor.
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 169d
Oh ok, seems really cool though!
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 170d
The only thing missing is an Fdroid app & a way to sync notes across platforms.
I'll take a look👌
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
Sync works today with Syncthing, Nextcloud, or anything that syncs folders, notes are just .md files. Mobile app is on the roadmap.
Uebercomplicated@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 169d
This awesome, thank you for your contribution to the open source space!! I have been looking for something like this for a while :), more powerful than apostrophe, more aesthetic than neovim. This fits the bill, thank you!
mmmac@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 169d
Just went to download this, but there isn't a build for apple silicon??
Do Intel macs even exist anymore???? Lol
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
The current DMG is an Intel build but runs fine on Apple Silicon through Rosetta. Native ARM build is on the list.
vort3@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 169d
In case anyone is interested, AppImage won't launch in Q4OS 5.8 (debian based distro), errors are GCC_13.0.0 not found and GLIBC_2.38 not found (which is surprising, I thought appimages ship all required packages together.
geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 169d
Linux is such a mess when it comes to binaries. For all its bloatware Windows made much better choices to bundle everything in the executable.
ArkHost@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
Known issue - the AppImage is built on Arch so it works on Arch, Fedora, openSUSE, etc. For Debian-based distros, use the APT repo or download the .deb directly