Tertiary question: we know that Vulcans/Romulans were descendents of the Progenitors, but are Talaxians?
If not, it might not be technically possible for them to interbreed at all, meaning that a Vulcan/Talaxian hybrid could never occur naturally, and also that Tuvix would probably be genetically incompatible with everything and everyone. Therefore, no species - only an anomaly produced by a freak transporter accident.
well yeah. data is an artificial human. so is tom riker (he was made artificially not having this debate). exocomps, uh, shut up. nanites and crystalline entities aren't human, they get nanite and crystalline entity rights. and tuvixen are unique, so they don't get rights.
As far as I can recall the entity killed a planet. It was unaware that the planet was inhabitated. Upon discovering that these meat bags are sentient, it attempted to communicate with us and we blasted it.
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grue@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 191d
Duplicating via transporter accident 👍
Merging via transporter accident 👎
Clearly, what Janeway should've done is Riker'd the Tuvix and then only murdered one of the copies.
Admin@startrek.website · 5 pts · 191d
It appears that perhaps a transporter accident has duplicated this post...
ValueSubtracted@startrek.website · 4 pts · 190d
Our screwy Mastodon federation strikes again...
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 189d
So that leaves one to take apart so you can make more?
Steve@communick.news · 3 pts · 191d
Speciesist
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 191d
Does Tuvix have two species, or none?
Steve@communick.news · 6 pts · 191d
I would say none.
Maybe to be a member of a species requires at least a history of a single breeding pair?
grue@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 191d
"A single Tuvix is a curiosity. A wonder, even. But thousands of Tuvixes -- isn't that becoming a race?"
charonn0@startrek.website · 6 pts · 191d
Not all species reproduce sexually. Not all sexual reproduction involves pairs.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 5 pts · 191d
Tertiary question: we know that Vulcans/Romulans were descendents of the Progenitors, but are Talaxians?
If not, it might not be technically possible for them to interbreed at all, meaning that a Vulcan/Talaxian hybrid could never occur naturally, and also that Tuvix would probably be genetically incompatible with everything and everyone. Therefore, no species - only an anomaly produced by a freak transporter accident.
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 191d
Of course he has tu, it's in the name
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 190d
we don't let tuvixen reproduce. it's in the charter.
hopesdead@startrek.website · 2 pts · 189d
Fine, call it humanoid rights.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
well yeah. data is an artificial human. so is tom riker (he was made artificially not having this debate). exocomps, uh, shut up. nanites and crystalline entities aren't human, they get nanite and crystalline entity rights. and tuvixen are unique, so they don't get rights.
MousePotatoDoesStuff@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 189d
Tuvix is more of a trolley problem situation.
And isn't the crystalline entity a mass murderer or something? Idk, it's been a while.
Fu@hostux.social · 4 pts · 182d
@MousePotatoDoesStuff yep, but don't mass murders and all those on the trolly tracks deserve human rights?
Fu@hostux.social · 2 pts · 182d
@MousePotatoDoesStuff "The good of the one, outweighs the good of the many"
Scubus@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 189d
As far as I can recall the entity killed a planet. It was unaware that the planet was inhabitated. Upon discovering that these meat bags are sentient, it attempted to communicate with us and we blasted it.
Fu@hostux.social · 1 pts · 182d
TheFerrango@lemmings.world · 0 pts · 187d
Janeway was right