Woman Who ‘Credibly Accused’ Trump of Sex With a Minor Reportedly Had Her Records Removed From Epstein Files
https://www.mediaite.com/media/news/woman-who-credibly-accused-trump-of-sex-with-a-minor-reportedly-had-her-records-removed-from-epstein-files/
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Zephorah@discuss.online · 260 pts · 169d
Talk about failure as a journalist. I just can’t with these assholes. They’re almost as guilty as Trump in that their word choice helps every last one of those bastards get away with it.
If the GIRL was a TEEN, then she was a CHILD, not a woman. I don’t care about the potential for alternative interpretations here. The frame placed on the situation is done with one word: woman. Not teen. Not child. Not kid. Not girl. “Woman”. Which creates a sideways shift in perception.
I am so sick of this shit.
Witchfire@lemmy.world · 111 pts · 169d
Raped a teenager. That's what he did. He raped a teenage girl .
Zephorah@discuss.online · 47 pts · 169d
He raped a 13 year old girl. There. I said what should be in the headlines.
“Underage woman” is a phrase used by pedophile supporters.
Soulg@ani.social · -20 pts · 169d
You even wrote the word underage, nobody is supporting that, your point makes no sense
Schmoo@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 169d
"Underage woman" is an oxymoron. Woman means adult female, and cannot be described as underage without contradicting yourself. These journalists are attempting to lessen the emotional response and confuse people by avoiding saying child or teenager.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 6 pts · 168d
You didn’t read what I wrote.
unnamed1@feddit.org · 33 pts · 169d
Early teens…. This is so disgusting
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 21 pts · 169d
Again, this isn't a failure, the media is working exactly as intended. They aren't on our side, they're on the side of the ruling class. The ruling class bought and own the media. They aren't going to use the media to criticize themselves.
If we want to see justice, we need to make it. We need to take action. The rules of the system protect the ruling class. We need to break the rules and break the system itself.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 168d
The ruling class and Israel control the media
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 6 pts · 168d
Israel is a puppet state of the US. It is also controlled by the ruling class.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 168d
They wouldn’t need to blackmail our politicians if that was the case . I think you’ve got it backwards it’s us who’s occupied by them. Netynahu is calling the shots Trump is a joke
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 1 pts · 168d
I don't have it backwards, I promise you. Israel is a colony set up by the US and the UK with the explicit purpose of advancing their foreign policy goals in the Middle East. The US pretends that Israel is a sovereign nation because the US population would not tolerate their actions if it was their own country.
Israel destabilizes the middle east, making the region ripe for extractionism.
Not all US politicians are aligned with US/Israeli imperialist interests and thus they are bribed, but plenty of them aren't.
Trump is a puppet, but he's not Israel's puppet, he's the puppet of the primarily US-based ruling elite.
Look at all of the connections between Mossad and the CIA. They work together all the time.
Stop spreading their misinfornation for them.
Zephorah@discuss.online · -1 pts · 168d
It started out that way. I don’t think it’s wrong to question the current power dynamics. Why would the US and UK care in the least of some college students are sitting in protest of Gaza? Nothing in that act changes their daily in the least. Nothing.
Unless someone else is calling the shots.
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 3 pts · 168d
Because the US (and the UK, a satellite state of the US) support ongoing US imperialist endeavors. Protesting Israel's continued genocide brings awareness to it, and the boycotts, divestments and sanctions (BDS) programs directly fuck up the bag, which is the entire point of colonialism, to get that bag.
Look, I totally understand the temptation to want to shunt everything bad onto Israel. Nobody wants to live in a country that does terrible things, because that makes us all feel a little guilty for not doing more to stop it. I totally get that, and absolutely there is nothing wrong with questioning it. The problem is that most people just arrive at the conclusion that the US is being controlled by Israel with very little understanding of the geopolitics of the region, because it makes them feel better to blame Israel for all of the evil happening.
We need to wake up to the reality of US Imperialism, and stop sticking our heads in the sand.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 15 pts · 169d
Its a fucking new director conspiracy:
https://www.npr.org/sections/npr-public-editor/2025/12/04/g-s1-100597/npr-described-jeffrey-epsteins-victims-as-underage-women-then-quickly-corrected-the-error
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -20 pts · 169d
It's funny people seem more upset by the word choice than the rape committed and human trafficking.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 16 pts · 169d
Is that what you think is happening here?
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -16 pts · 169d
In case you missed it:
It’s funny people seem more upset by the word choice than the rape committed and human trafficking.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 5 pts · 169d
So, you are just an actual idiot. Noted.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 169d
I'll take any iq test against you and you will fail miserably against me.
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 168d
Wow. The dumbest reply imaginable...
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 6 pts · 168d
IQ tests are eugenics nonsense. don't be an ablist
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 5 pts · 168d
Yeah, cause that's not the exact thing an idiot would say.
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 13 pts · 169d
we're upset that the word choice runs cover for the thing we're REALLY upset about
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 169d
Semantics?
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 9 pts · 169d
systematic child exploitation.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 169d
Quill7513@slrpnk.net · 8 pts · 169d
what the fuck? so… let me get this straight. you say we're not mad about the systematic child exploitation. we say "yes we are" you say "what, specifically, are you upset about" we say "the systematic child exploitation" and then you call me an incel?
that's…
really weird. it seems like you just want to be mad at people on the internet today. unless we can clear up whatever misunderstanding this is, i'm going to assume you're a troll and block you because you are absolutely not behaving like someone who actually wants to do something about this problem and instead wants to do some fake moralizing about how the rest of us only care about words and you're the only one who's actually concerned about the sytematic child exploitation.
HikingVet@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 168d
Bad faith troll
Mouselemming@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 169d
She was a woman by the time she was able to report it, but it's very poorly worded.
Smaile@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 169d
Certin News people faced justice when the Nazis fell, a lot of people forget that it wasnt just the soldier of the regime that were tried and persecuted. Tho this person likely isn't the subject, her editer def might get looked over
exaybachae@startrek.website · 6 pts · 169d
There's a distinct difference between how some of these terms are used depending on context. There is biological status and then there is legal status.
So be careful where & when you take issue.
Here, legal terms are appropriate due to the subject matter, and you should definitely suggest to the authors that they adjust the terms used accordingly.
Just complaing to the ether may be cathartic, but inaction is also complicit.
However teen is a teen regardless of context, as it's a designation of age group, not a legal or biological classification. So it's up to the reader to determine relevance of the teens age beyond that.
Zephorah@discuss.online · 11 pts · 169d
Even in paper days journalism deliberately packed their first and second sentences of an article with the most punchy and relevant details because they knew, with every additional sentence, readers were lost.
The line is buried. And could be stated more succinctly with “13 year old girl”, punching in the relevant details.
Instead, extra words are added. It’s deliberate. And it’s journalism’s job not to do this because a large slice of readers will hit only the key words and move on.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 94 pts · 169d
Trigger warning for her testimonial.
She also disappeared without a trace after Trump became president.
Full write up in our community https://lemmy.world/post/35298932
Grimy@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 169d
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 83 pts · 169d
Feds knew. America knew.
This is America.
And the darkest part is the sex trafficking and rape most likely is just the tip of how evil they are. They don't just want to own sex slaves, they want, or even more likely have the upper hand in owning humanity.
reksas@sopuli.xyz · 9 pts · 169d
i wonder when they get bored of raping kids and start having hungergame style fucked up shit or something even more horrifying. Who knows if they already do in secret.
Maeve@kbin.earth · 2 pts · 169d
We've been in hunger games since founding. They're now moving up through the homeless middle class.
zbyte64@awful.systems · 1 pts · 169d
We had rich people eating slaves and natives since the founding of our nation.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 169d
Didn’t the files talk about killing and eating some of the kids? Pretty sure that’s what they do when they bored of them.
IAmYouButYouDontKnowYet@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 169d
I was going to respond to this, but the other commenter said it better than could.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 169d
That's called composition. A formal logical fallacy. Supersets are not homogenous. Applying what's true about a subset to the superset is possibly correct but often isn't.
For instance, all dogs are collies is demonstrably wrong. But all collies are dogs is true.
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 50 pts · 169d
Again, early teens is not a woman, that's grade school or beginning of high school:
exaybachae@startrek.website · -18 pts · 169d
The correct terminology depends on context.
As others have mentioned, when they said woman there they were referring to the present report of a woman, who was a teen and the time of the event.
Calling an adult female human a woman is not wrong.
Calling a teen a teen is not wrong.
Legally teens under 18 are also children.
Technically everyone is someone's child.
Though not considered adults by most laws, biologically people become adults after puberty, which varies by individual. The period during puberty they are adolescents, neither children nor yet adults.
Context matters.
ctrl_alt_esc@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 169d
What are you talking about? It's plain wrong. "Trump forced a woman" is incorrect. She wasn't a woman then, it doesn't matter that she is one now. He forced a child.
lemmy_get_my_coat@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 169d
What the fuck are you on mate?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 6 pts · 169d
He's on Grok making more pictures for his loli file.
wizblizz@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 169d
Fuck off with your bullshit.
athatet@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 169d
Please do not run cover for the hyper rich pedos running the government.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 169d
You're not wrong.
Before the late 1800s age of consent laws didn't exist. Like a bar mitzvah was a celebration of adulthood, at 13, iirc.
Marrying children was common. And knocking up young teen girls was normal. And this still happens...
I think the saying was/is, "old enough to bleed, old enough to breed."
athatet@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 169d
Please jesus tell me that you understand that it is not the fucking 1800s anymore.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -7 pts · 169d
Some say time is just an illusion.
drmoose@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
I'm genuinely trying to understand your point. Do you mean we should still follow what people were doing in 1800s? People are dog pilling on you and while it's true 1800s people were relative brutes I'm not sure what that adds to this discussion?
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 168d
That's a lot of judgements to unpack.
Luckily, I'm not moving. Good luck with that.
Ranulph@thelemmy.club · -1 pts · 168d
''Banned from community'' I don't know what you said but you had the right to say it. Sorry that you received punishment for writing what you thought. There are so few refuges of ''free speech'' left
NikkiDimes@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 167d
Dude's a blatant troll, I wouldn't shed a tear.
pfizer_dose@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
You're a huge fucking loser.
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 168d
Says the idiot.
liuther9@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 168d
Just do the world a favor and look in the mirror.
SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 169d
Nothing is going to come of this. He's invincible because we've allowed it.
Soulg@ani.social · 38 pts · 169d
None of that "we" shit
Stormy@thelemmy.club · 13 pts · 168d
For real. We never stood a chance against him and el on musk manipulating the ever loving fuck out of the media and the election.
null@lemmy.org · 11 pts · 168d
He's invincible because 1/3rd of the US population looked away while another 1/3rd put him into power.
ericatty@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 168d
And the other 1/3 were accused of being hyperbolic and/or hysterical.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 168d
But Harris was going to eat Palestinian children! Now at least the Palestinians are safe!
Glytch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Really sucks how Harris was such a shitty candidate that no one wanted to vote for her even when she was up against a man who openly stated he was going to do what he has been doing. I wonder if Democrats have learned anything from their mistakes.
Unfortunately I doubt it
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
I mean she can be a bad candidate and still be the only logical choice. I don’t think letting fascism take root was a good idea. But you do you.
Glytch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
Keep blaming the victims. I'm sure that'll get them to listen to you.
To the average, uneducated and heavily propagandized, American citizen there is very little difference between Democrats and Republicans. Each side calls the other fascist or communist or nazis so often the words have lost meaning. Each side is owned entirely by corporate interests (often the same corps) and often don't even pay lip service to the working class.
It's on party leadership to communicate a message that earns votes. They failed to do that in 2024. "Don't vote for that guy" is not an effective way to say "vote for me" unless you actually present an attractive alternative. That's going to require actually talking to people rather than at them and listening to their concerns.
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 167d
I’m not blaming the victims. Although I would consider the victims being the ones who voted for Harris or couldn’t vote at all.
If you voted for Trump, you are an idiot. If you didn’t vote, you’re an even bigger idiot.
If you think both parties are the same, then in your analogy, there are no victims.
Take responsibility for your actions or inactions. If you know things are bad and knew things would be worse by not voting for Harris, you are to blame.
sturmblast@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 168d
1/3 of voters, not the population
Ranulph@thelemmy.club · 0 pts · 167d
Exactly. I did not vote for him..and he should know hiding evidence is a crime in and of itself. Misprision of a Felony (18 U.S.C. § 4)
bearboiblake@pawb.social · 15 pts · 169d
He's a frail old man. One solid shove in the right direction would be all it takes.
sen@lemmy.zip · 32 pts · 168d
When you say "sex with a minor" what you really mean is "raped a child" right?
Right?
alonsohmtz@feddit.uk · 22 pts · 169d
zbyte64@awful.systems · 9 pts · 169d
She already disappeared.
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 168d
And Israel
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 16 pts · 169d
More details in this thread:
https://lemmy.world/post/35298932
pelespirit@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 169d
Ahh, the Katie Johnson video. Her testimony was corroborated by someone too.
answersplease77@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 168d
Have they identified the 14-yr old down syndrome girl whom jeffry and Leon Black impregnated and killed her baby? Or was she one of the victims who vanished with Epestien's 400 galons of acid and remains thrown in the ocean?