This doesn’t shame Bezos. He’s happy with you thinking of him as a shrewd businessman who has the gumption to risk being openly corrupt when he can get away with it.
Pay for play is what made Trump the President possible, see Super PACs and Citizens United for more details.
PACs financed by, well, any country or organization or person, really, can funnel millions directly to their chosen candidate (or their favorite shell company, and so on).
They call it "donations", because fuck you.
Remember, we're only told about the up-front "donations" that they openly claim for publicity. It's a lot more than that.
Pay for play isn't just a Trump thing, and it's been around at least the last 40 years. The presidents from Reagan to Obama paved the way for this grift. For example, when body scanners became a thing at airports, it was reported that one of the major contractors in the effort was a personal friend of Barack Obama.
But there are plenty of examples: Halliburton and the Clinton Foundation, the Trump Organization, taking $500,000 for a "speaking fee". (When really, it's a payment for a future favor.)
Presidents making money for themselves and their friends has been a tradition since Reagan. As much as I despise Jimmy Carter, I'll give him a modicum of credit for not monetizing the presidency.
For example, when body scanners became a thing at airports, it was reported that one of the major contractors in the effort was a personal friend of Barack Obama.
I can't find anything on this. Can you point me towards a source?
Will probably have to look at newspaper archives. It was reported on at the time in the wake of the underwear bombing attempt. There was a lot of controversy around it, not just because of the grift, but because of health and privacy risks associated with the tech. And the alternative to walking through the scanner was to get systematically groped by the TSA.
I remember the privacy concerns for sure. I can't find anything about any grift though, nor do I remember ever hearing about it. If true, that's pretty significant.
Not if a large number of people do it. As far as I know, a large number of people are dissatisfied with Amazon, Bezos, Trump and so on. Apathy is compliance and keeps the tills rolling.
Even if one succumbs to the hopelessness in thinking that resistance is futile, there is still some pleasure to be had from hitting them were it hurts, ie. the only thing they seem to care about - money. How ever small a hit they take from it.
What's a large number of people? 10,000? 10,000,000? Amazon Prime has 180 million subscribers in the US alone, with a revenue of $44 billion dollars annually.
That represents less than 7% of Amazon's annual revenue.
You cannot fathom how massive Amazon is, and how small consumers are in comparison. By all means, stop shopping on Amazon. We all should, because we can. Just don't expect Bezos to give a shit.
Amazon is big because they have businesses that rely upon them for infrastructure. Retailers pay Amazon to sell their stuff. Enterprise clients pay Amazon to host their servers in the cloud. Governments pay Amazon to provide internet and host data. Amazon could lose every single global retail purchase on their website for a month and the effect on their net profits would be less than the amount rounded off of their balance sheets.
The human mind cannot comprehend the amount of money the oligarchy controls, and the insignificance of the individual consumer. We are ants to people like Bezos. Annoying, maybe, but a nuisance to be dealt with. You don't ask the ants what they want. You ignore them until they get into your house, and then you eradicate them and set barriers to prevent them coming back.
There are a lot of us, and we could be annoying to Jeff Bezos. But he is beyond economic retribution.
But fuck I despise Robert Reich. He was part of the Clinton Administration, which cut the social safety net, incentivized moving US manufacturing offshore, and helped pave the way for the Amazons of the world to exploit us all.
To be fair, bezos and amazon paid more than that that we just don't know about. I suspect direct payments through layers of shell companies, disguised as a failed investment or something.
22 Comments
starik@lemmy.zip · 38 pts · 182d
This doesn’t shame Bezos. He’s happy with you thinking of him as a shrewd businessman who has the gumption to risk being openly corrupt when he can get away with it.
adhd_traco@piefed.social · 22 pts · 182d
The target audience is not Bezos. He's probably not happy with that. But I don't really care how he feels either way tbh.
arbitrary_sarcasm@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 181d
I said it before, I'll say it again.
Lobbying is just bribery with extra steps.
Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 181d
It is literally just bribery. Bribery with extra steps is just bribery.
OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 181d
Those extra steps?
Mulligrubs@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 182d
Pay for play is what made Trump the President possible, see Super PACs and Citizens United for more details.
PACs financed by, well, any country or organization or person, really, can funnel millions directly to their chosen candidate (or their favorite shell company, and so on).
They call it "donations", because fuck you.
Remember, we're only told about the up-front "donations" that they openly claim for publicity. It's a lot more than that.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 181d
Pay for play isn't just a Trump thing, and it's been around at least the last 40 years. The presidents from Reagan to Obama paved the way for this grift. For example, when body scanners became a thing at airports, it was reported that one of the major contractors in the effort was a personal friend of Barack Obama.
But there are plenty of examples: Halliburton and the Clinton Foundation, the Trump Organization, taking $500,000 for a "speaking fee". (When really, it's a payment for a future favor.)
Presidents making money for themselves and their friends has been a tradition since Reagan. As much as I despise Jimmy Carter, I'll give him a modicum of credit for not monetizing the presidency.
Carrolade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
I can't find anything on this. Can you point me towards a source?
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Will probably have to look at newspaper archives. It was reported on at the time in the wake of the underwear bombing attempt. There was a lot of controversy around it, not just because of the grift, but because of health and privacy risks associated with the tech. And the alternative to walking through the scanner was to get systematically groped by the TSA.
Carrolade@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
I remember the privacy concerns for sure. I can't find anything about any grift though, nor do I remember ever hearing about it. If true, that's pretty significant.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 182d
What are you going to do, not shop at Amazon? Avoid AWS?
Zorcron@lemmy.zip · 18 pts · 182d
Avoiding amazon is a fair bit easier than AWS. I barely know what websites use AWS
Ok_effect@piefed.europe.pub · 12 pts · 182d
Pretty easy to not shop at Amazon in my experience
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 182d
Yeah, but my point is that even if you stop buying from Amazon, it's a drop in the ocean of profits.
Ok_effect@piefed.europe.pub · 1 pts · 182d
Not if a large number of people do it. As far as I know, a large number of people are dissatisfied with Amazon, Bezos, Trump and so on. Apathy is compliance and keeps the tills rolling.
Even if one succumbs to the hopelessness in thinking that resistance is futile, there is still some pleasure to be had from hitting them were it hurts, ie. the only thing they seem to care about - money. How ever small a hit they take from it.
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
What's a large number of people? 10,000? 10,000,000? Amazon Prime has 180 million subscribers in the US alone, with a revenue of $44 billion dollars annually.
That represents less than 7% of Amazon's annual revenue.
You cannot fathom how massive Amazon is, and how small consumers are in comparison. By all means, stop shopping on Amazon. We all should, because we can. Just don't expect Bezos to give a shit.
Ok_effect@piefed.europe.pub · 1 pts · 181d
Amazon is big because of consumers*, has revenue because of consumers. There are a lot of consumers, yes. That is part of the point.
*people
themeatbridge@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 181d
Amazon is big because they have businesses that rely upon them for infrastructure. Retailers pay Amazon to sell their stuff. Enterprise clients pay Amazon to host their servers in the cloud. Governments pay Amazon to provide internet and host data. Amazon could lose every single global retail purchase on their website for a month and the effect on their net profits would be less than the amount rounded off of their balance sheets.
The human mind cannot comprehend the amount of money the oligarchy controls, and the insignificance of the individual consumer. We are ants to people like Bezos. Annoying, maybe, but a nuisance to be dealt with. You don't ask the ants what they want. You ignore them until they get into your house, and then you eradicate them and set barriers to prevent them coming back.
There are a lot of us, and we could be annoying to Jeff Bezos. But he is beyond economic retribution.
Yerbouti@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 182d
Funny how so many books, movies, games, warned us about a dystopic scenario where the ultra-richs would control the world.
I_Has_A_Hat@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 182d
FYI, we haven't seen the kickbacks from the Melania movie yet. The savings from the BB Bill were already baked in before the movie got made.
FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 182d
He's not wrong.
But fuck I despise Robert Reich. He was part of the Clinton Administration, which cut the social safety net, incentivized moving US manufacturing offshore, and helped pave the way for the Amazons of the world to exploit us all.
hector@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 182d
To be fair, bezos and amazon paid more than that that we just don't know about. I suspect direct payments through layers of shell companies, disguised as a failed investment or something.