While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally
It is neat, and provides a backstop to prices and American dairy overproduction. It diversifies income streams for farmers, but yes at the cost of food. Remember the concerns of corn to ethanol. Food as fuel has human costs as does food as packaging.
Edit: and of course our plasticized environment is a total nightmare scenario.
I would hope so, but no dairy alternative has seemed to replicate milk protein properly. But I'm sure there will be q day to replicate it almost exactly as it is.
It's great to find alternatives to plastic, but could we focus on them not requiring animal products? Dairy cows live horrible lives (usually) and raising them is bad for the environment.
Veganism is the practice of abstaining from the use of animal products and the consumption of animal source foods, and an associated philosophy that rejects the commodity status of animals
I get you. The person you responded to talked about "the plastic one" and meant the old style non-milk plastic one, but the milk plastic one is also a "plastic one". It was a tad unclear.
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BCsven@lemmy.ca · 38 pts · 172d
While neat, it still seems like poor stewardship. Rather than some easy cultivated fiber product you have to raise dairy cows and extract milk for a disposable plate. Seems like poor life cycle cost tally
lettruthout@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 172d
Agreed, very quickly. So we can honestly say this idea aged like milk?
Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 172d
It is neat, and provides a backstop to prices and American dairy overproduction. It diversifies income streams for farmers, but yes at the cost of food. Remember the concerns of corn to ethanol. Food as fuel has human costs as does food as packaging.
Edit: and of course our plasticized environment is a total nightmare scenario.
chicken@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 172d
Probably more associated greenhouse gas emissions than the plastic one
deafboy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 172d
Couldn't we use some yeast or e-coli instead of cows?
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 172d
I would hope so, but no dairy alternative has seemed to replicate milk protein properly. But I'm sure there will be q day to replicate it almost exactly as it is.
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 3 pts · 172d
There's already mushroom packaging, I can't imagine it would be much of a leap to plates.
SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 2 pts · 172d
I don't have an answer for the cost of life, but I have heard many times that milk and cheese is overly abundant in the USA.
I do agree that it should be much cheaper to use cellulose/plant composite for these things. The problem is sealing it.
frongt@lemmy.zip · 10 pts · 172d
Yes, dairy is cheap in the US, only due to government subsidy.
kaprap@leminal.space · -8 pts · 172d
You don't have to raise cows to have milk, you can literally use the same fiber (Soy, Hemp) to use industrially to make this plastic
Just because it says 'milk' doesn't mean 'dairy'
Ledivin@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 172d
Except they're using casein, which does mean 'dairy.'
BCsven@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 172d
It said milk protein, they were specifically talking about dairy milk, and not soy protien
Drusas@fedia.io · 11 pts · 172d
It's great to find alternatives to plastic, but could we focus on them not requiring animal products? Dairy cows live horrible lives (usually) and raising them is bad for the environment.
BagOfHeavyStones@piefed.social · 9 pts · 172d
Soon to be adopted by BMW for their cooling systems?
Jokulhlaups@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 172d
So now the plastic one can be marketed as vegan
Usernamealreadyinuse@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 172d
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism
So actually, no
smh@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 172d
I get you. The person you responded to talked about "the plastic one" and meant the old style non-milk plastic one, but the milk plastic one is also a "plastic one". It was a tad unclear.
commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 172d
i dont think you have good reading comprehension.
GorGor@startrek.website · 2 pts · 172d
Milk based plastic was one of the first man made plastics produced back in 1890. Not 1980, 1890.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_plastic_development