Forgot to attack themselves.... is this joke being made by a young jawn? That was us. Dont get me wrong the operatives were not ours, but we knew about them and allowed them to do it in order to continue or start various military jawns in the time since.
But you don't need pretext. Nobody needs to pretend. They have cult followers, and if they make a contradiction they can just say they didn't without argument, and that's that.
Same reason they do daily missile and don't strikes.
Trying to force Ukraine to give up and surrender.
Few times they already used ballistic missiles that could carry a nuclear payload. The missile didn't have nukes, because that would get a very negative reaction from the rest of a countries, but if trump used them it would be a pass for Russia too.
Okay, but the us already has used nukes (including once after the japanese had already surrendered), so what exactly do you think the russians're waiting for? Ie, not why do you think they want to use them at all, or why you think they might eventually do so. Note, that they went to Ukraine very much in spite of the reactions of other nations, so it's not terribly clear why you expect that to be something that matters to them at all.
Imo, it's not out of their nature to lie about their own motives as much as the us does, also not in their nature to orbit american standards the way you imply. But it is telling that you think somebody else using nukes against somebody else justifies them in doing so.
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ArgumentativeMonotheist@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 191d
There's not enough budget for spin anymore, so this is the era of naked imperialism. 🤷
MagicianWithABadPlan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 190d
The US did not attack itself, at least that part of this post is complete nonsense.
naeap@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 190d
Well, what Trump is currently doing would probably count as that
Kolanaki@pawb.social · 3 pts · 190d
How did a corner end up in the center? 🤔
Dicska@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 190d
Well, cutting corners left, right, and at the World Trade Center.
peteypete420@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 190d
Forgot to attack themselves.... is this joke being made by a young jawn? That was us. Dont get me wrong the operatives were not ours, but we knew about them and allowed them to do it in order to continue or start various military jawns in the time since.
Someone explain it to me like im 23
Tattorack@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 190d
But you don't need pretext. Nobody needs to pretend. They have cult followers, and if they make a contradiction they can just say they didn't without argument, and that's that.
Proprietary_Blend@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 191d
Are there no tubes?
Pat_Riot@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 190d
These days pretext is optional, like rules of engagement.
Mrkawfee@feddit.uk · 0 pts · 190d
We did get dancing Jews though.
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · -2 pts · 191d
My worry is that he will find some excuse to use nukes, automatically giving permission for Russia to use one in Ukraine.
They say that this will take several weeks until they achieve their objective, but never said what the objective actually is.
They killed the leadership, they don't plan boots on the ground meaning they can't install new regime, so what's the goal?
cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 190d
Why do you suppose russia is waiting on the us to use nukes?
takeda@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 190d
Same reason they do daily missile and don't strikes.
Trying to force Ukraine to give up and surrender.
Few times they already used ballistic missiles that could carry a nuclear payload. The missile didn't have nukes, because that would get a very negative reaction from the rest of a countries, but if trump used them it would be a pass for Russia too.
cockmushroom@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 189d
Okay, but the us already has used nukes (including once after the japanese had already surrendered), so what exactly do you think the russians're waiting for? Ie, not why do you think they want to use them at all, or why you think they might eventually do so. Note, that they went to Ukraine very much in spite of the reactions of other nations, so it's not terribly clear why you expect that to be something that matters to them at all.
Imo, it's not out of their nature to lie about their own motives as much as the us does, also not in their nature to orbit american standards the way you imply. But it is telling that you think somebody else using nukes against somebody else justifies them in doing so.
kingofras@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 190d
Best I can tell from the notes I took the last few months (I didn’t attend all classes) is that Peter Thiel knows about the antichrist.