Parsi also shared video of a distraught woman who described an apparent so-called “double-tap” strike, a common tactic used by the US, Israel, and other militaries in which an initial bombing is followed up with a second one in a bid to kill and injure survivors and first responders.
“They killed everyone,” the woman said of the attackers. “They dropped the first bomb, then when people went to help, they dropped another bomb.”
Bombing schools, gymnasiums, hospitals, carpet bombing cities... Mark Carney do you still support this?
I don't understand why there hasn't been more of a response to his remarks (that I've seen anyway). I was appalled when he said it, but it seems like people are either ignoring it or trying to explain it away.
For a very long time, the US military has prided itself on performing surgical strikes with the least amount of civilian casualties and collateral damage as possible. Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.
Allowing Israel to lead and dictate our military operations (as stated by Trump and US officials) in any way, is leaving us soaked in blood and with a stain that won't clean off for a very long time.
Not in a long time. "Ever" for that stain tongonaway, you'd need to clean all the blood you already have in your hands. Keep cheering up for your veteran war criminals whose only repercussions have been selfminflictednwhen they can't live anymore with the things they've done.
So far I've heard official statements saying "The goal of this is to bring about Armageddon so that Jesus can return," and "there won't be any stupid rules of engagement." Both from SecDef.
Meanwhile the official white house statement is that "the full scope and duration of military operations" is unknown.
This is literally an act of world sabotage by the doomsday cult in charge of the world's most powerful military...
You don't understand very much if you think any singular individual with a gun can simply "do something" about the military-industrial complex and militarized police force.
Lone wolf attacks don't accomplish shit but bad PR. Actuality doing something effective would take a level of organization and coordination that doesn't exist and may even be impossible due to the surveillance state and even just the fractured state of american society.
Even a well-ordered movement wouldn't have the firepower to match what they're up against. Virtually limitless federal budget, armored vehicles, a monopoly on everything bigger than a rifle, thousands of centrally-organized personnel, etc.
I'm sure the average keyboard warrior will be able to engage in those tactics effectively if it comes to that. And I'm sure that wouldn't just result in even worse devastation on a far greater scale.
Regardless, at least we seem to agree that we should wait and see how midterms play out before taking any drastic measures...
Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the above commenter, or someone else online, signed up for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and has been honorably serving to repel the russian invasion?
Cause if so, good on them. But that doesn't exactly change the dynamic in the US. Ukrainian forces are centrally organized, with material support and intelligence sharing from a coalition of western allies. They have military-grade hardware, even though the US has been trying to reduce their supply. The reduction of which has been shown to have resulted in tactical and strategic setbacks.
There's no chance of the same situation applying in the US, where there would also be no clear frontline but rather a protracted insurgency, rather than conventional warfare between two sovereign state actors.
just wait till they are doing it to blue cities, or do whatever they were doing to do with those bioweapon lab network uncovered in vegas a month ago and seems to have been swept out of the news
yeah, that really scare the shit out of me, what the hell is the purpose? the owner has 750 airbnb properties so this was not small potatoes and well financed with hired chinese chemists
That is an unverifiable, unfalsifiable non sequitur that has nothing to do with the fact that American meddling and plunder in the Middle East enjoys bipartisan support. When it comes to the Middle East, yes: both sides are the same.
On the contrary, you know what's an unverifiable and unfalsifiable non sequitur? Your apparent claim that a Democrat president would have invaded Iran.
Also, pointing out that Democratic presidents have continued wars started by their Republican predecessors is completely different from claiming that they would have unnecessarily began new wars if they had been in power at those times. Your point does not substantiate the claim you're trying to make.
Over 100 school girls killed. "Collateral damage" that the people are happy, ecstatic , thrilled to give.
No.
You are falling for Israel propaganda friend.
These people are not happy to be getting bombed.
Only a complete dimwit would believe videos being shown on fox and cnn and then circulated on Instagram, are real Iranians cheering that their children are being bombed. That their cities are being bombed by Israel and the U.S. (weird how none of the women in these videos are wearing hijabs).
It's playing on this idea that the u.s is the white savior.
We aren't. And we never ever have been.
Regardless if most of the Iranian people wanted their leader gone or not, they aren't cheering being pulled into a war where their civilians are targeted.
Think about how much you hate Trump.
Do you think you would be on the streets right now celebrating if Russia came here and bombed the piss out of D.C and killed a bunch of kids and civilians. But they also got Trump. And then after they killed him they also continued to bomb other cities. ?!
No really. Would you be cheering and say.
"Well that's collateral damage."?
Use your head.
Oh of course you will say the perpetrators are still unclear, what a mystery! Who knows who might be bombing people during the american strike that was announced with months of anticipation , it might be anyone, right? Those kids could have vaporized themselves right?
The udefinable other is so prone to violence these things just happen in their domain right? The CIA just needs to arm them like they are doing openly with the Kurdish right now and with how american government officials openly stated there was mossad agents intervening with previous outbursts of violence.
Disgusting, just disgusting. America is a country of home to the most barbaric nazi psychopaths.
Sources: The Guardian (UK state propaganda), Time Magazine (not a serious source), Iran International (lol). The lower end estimates are much more plausible.
42 Comments
floofloof@lemmy.ca · 64 pts · 198d
Bombing schools, gymnasiums, hospitals, carpet bombing cities... Mark Carney do you still support this?
CulturedLout@lemmy.ca · 12 pts · 198d
I don't understand why there hasn't been more of a response to his remarks (that I've seen anyway). I was appalled when he said it, but it seems like people are either ignoring it or trying to explain it away.
_Nico198X_@piefed.europe.pub · 7 pts · 198d
ZiggyTheZygote@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 198d
Of course he does! And he always will.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 48 pts · 198d
For a very long time, the US military has prided itself on performing surgical strikes with the least amount of civilian casualties and collateral damage as possible. Israel prides itself in their capacity to inflict maximum pain and destruction.
Allowing Israel to lead and dictate our military operations (as stated by Trump and US officials) in any way, is leaving us soaked in blood and with a stain that won't clean off for a very long time.
nogooduser@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 198d
That wasn’t the case at the start of the Gaza genocide. They used to say how good they were at targeting and that they only did precision strikes.
Then I guess that they realised that nobody believed them but they weren’t going to do anything about it anyway so they stopped pretending.
SmackemWittadic@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 198d
Brother they can say whatever they want, we've had 60 years worth of evidence before their new Gaza campaign even started.
rarsamx@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 197d
You spelled "ever" wrong.
Not in a long time. "Ever" for that stain tongonaway, you'd need to clean all the blood you already have in your hands. Keep cheering up for your veteran war criminals whose only repercussions have been selfminflictednwhen they can't live anymore with the things they've done.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 31 pts · 197d
So far I've heard official statements saying "The goal of this is to bring about Armageddon so that Jesus can return," and "there won't be any stupid rules of engagement." Both from SecDef.
Meanwhile the official white house statement is that "the full scope and duration of military operations" is unknown.
This is literally an act of world sabotage by the doomsday cult in charge of the world's most powerful military...
I'm gonna be sick...
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today · 11 pts · 197d
Every American household has a gun, but not a single spine in sight.
Go do something pussy Americans.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 197d
You don't understand very much if you think any singular individual with a gun can simply "do something" about the military-industrial complex and militarized police force.
Lone wolf attacks don't accomplish shit but bad PR. Actuality doing something effective would take a level of organization and coordination that doesn't exist and may even be impossible due to the surveillance state and even just the fractured state of american society.
Even a well-ordered movement wouldn't have the firepower to match what they're up against. Virtually limitless federal budget, armored vehicles, a monopoly on everything bigger than a rifle, thousands of centrally-organized personnel, etc.
rarsamx@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 197d
You haven't heard of guerilla war? It has worked elsewhere. In fact, it has worked against the US.
I really would prefer it doesn't come to that. However, the midterms will tell the world if that's the only option.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · -1 pts · 197d
I'm sure the average keyboard warrior will be able to engage in those tactics effectively if it comes to that. And I'm sure that wouldn't just result in even worse devastation on a far greater scale.
Regardless, at least we seem to agree that we should wait and see how midterms play out before taking any drastic measures...
Doorbook@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 197d
Keyboard warrior who went to Ukraine seems to be holding the line.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 0 pts · 197d
Can you elaborate on what you mean by that? Are you suggesting that the above commenter, or someone else online, signed up for the Ukrainian Foreign Legion and has been honorably serving to repel the russian invasion?
Cause if so, good on them. But that doesn't exactly change the dynamic in the US. Ukrainian forces are centrally organized, with material support and intelligence sharing from a coalition of western allies. They have military-grade hardware, even though the US has been trying to reduce their supply. The reduction of which has been shown to have resulted in tactical and strategic setbacks.
There's no chance of the same situation applying in the US, where there would also be no clear frontline but rather a protracted insurgency, rather than conventional warfare between two sovereign state actors.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 197d
What's the point of having guns then?
Americans should give up their guns, at least less children will be sacrificed to Baal
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 197d
To hold off the red coats, apparently.
Furbag@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 196d
The In'juns could attack at any moment!
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 197d
You'll have to take that question up with the gun nuts who are actively supporting fascism. I can't speak on their behalf...
lefixxx@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 198d
wow this is way worse than i thought
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 198d
just wait till they are doing it to blue cities, or do whatever they were doing to do with those bioweapon lab network uncovered in vegas a month ago and seems to have been swept out of the news
Nickelalloy@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 198d
https://theconversation.com/an-illegal-bioweapons-lab-was-found-in-a-las-vegas-garage-its-a-warning-for-australia-275564
This one?
Upgrayedd1776@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 198d
yeah, that really scare the shit out of me, what the hell is the purpose? the owner has 750 airbnb properties so this was not small potatoes and well financed with hired chinese chemists
Nickelalloy@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 197d
Now this is strange times we live in man.
Damage@feddit.it · 14 pts · 198d
History will condemn us all
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 198d
No need to wait. I condemn them now.
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 198d
American sitouts: meh, both parties are the same. (Continues holding breath)
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 198d
Blumaga: "American meddling in the Middle East is a new phenomenon that was invented solely by Republicans"
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 197d
A Democrat in the white house wouldn't have invaded Iran...
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 197d
That is an unverifiable, unfalsifiable non sequitur that has nothing to do with the fact that American meddling and plunder in the Middle East enjoys bipartisan support. When it comes to the Middle East, yes: both sides are the same.
BoJackHorseman@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 197d
Both sides are the same because both sides are controlled by AIPAC
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 197d
On the contrary, you know what's an unverifiable and unfalsifiable non sequitur? Your apparent claim that a Democrat president would have invaded Iran.
Also, pointing out that Democratic presidents have continued wars started by their Republican predecessors is completely different from claiming that they would have unnecessarily began new wars if they had been in power at those times. Your point does not substantiate the claim you're trying to make.
Ferrous@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 197d
Do show me where I made this claim.
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 197d
It was implicit in your original reply, don't play dumb as if no one can read subtext.
chellomere@lemmy.world · -15 pts · 198d
daannii@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 198d
So you are saying the bombing isn't actually killing anyone and the Iranians actually approve of their cities being bombed.
How stupid do you think people are?
Genuine question.
chellomere@lemmy.world · -10 pts · 197d
daannii@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 197d
Over 100 school girls killed. "Collateral damage" that the people are happy, ecstatic , thrilled to give.
No.
You are falling for Israel propaganda friend.
These people are not happy to be getting bombed.
Only a complete dimwit would believe videos being shown on fox and cnn and then circulated on Instagram, are real Iranians cheering that their children are being bombed. That their cities are being bombed by Israel and the U.S. (weird how none of the women in these videos are wearing hijabs).
It's playing on this idea that the u.s is the white savior.
We aren't. And we never ever have been.
Regardless if most of the Iranian people wanted their leader gone or not, they aren't cheering being pulled into a war where their civilians are targeted.
Think about how much you hate Trump. Do you think you would be on the streets right now celebrating if Russia came here and bombed the piss out of D.C and killed a bunch of kids and civilians. But they also got Trump. And then after they killed him they also continued to bomb other cities. ?!
No really. Would you be cheering and say. "Well that's collateral damage."? Use your head.
Don't fall for the lies.
x00z@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 197d
Can you provide these videos?
chellomere@lemmy.world · -5 pts · 197d
napkin2020@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 197d
cecinestpasunbot@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 193d
Evidence is not a bunch of instagram posts and an article by a known Saudi propaganda outlet.
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 197d
Imaginary Iranians: "I am so glad little girls are blown to pieces in the name of the american's discourse about democracy."
chellomere@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 196d
Ilixtze@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 196d
Oh of course you will say the perpetrators are still unclear, what a mystery! Who knows who might be bombing people during the american strike that was announced with months of anticipation , it might be anyone, right? Those kids could have vaporized themselves right?
The udefinable other is so prone to violence these things just happen in their domain right? The CIA just needs to arm them like they are doing openly with the Kurdish right now and with how american government officials openly stated there was mossad agents intervening with previous outbursts of violence.
Disgusting, just disgusting. America is a country of home to the most barbaric nazi psychopaths.
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 196d
I find it completely unbelieveble that the Iranian government was able to exceed the peak daily death toll in the Holocaust
chellomere@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 196d
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 196d
Sources: The Guardian (UK state propaganda), Time Magazine (not a serious source), Iran International (lol). The lower end estimates are much more plausible.