Actually, God doesn't love me. God's love is completely conditional on whether I believe in him or not. I don't get why Christians keep dancing around this fact.
Hierarchy sells because it gives you a place that belongs to you, even when it's a shitty place. Having a place does wonder for depression, because it creates meaning.
Creating meaning without hierarchy is possible, though much harder.
When they sell you what I assume is the Christian God (not all Gods are hierarchical), they sell you an easy solution. Burgers make you full if you're hungry, even if they are not good for other parameters. But if a friend is starving and all you have is a burger, you offer a burger.
If that is all you require then I have the coolest god for you (it is Anteater God i hope you like eating ants) how do you feel about convergent evolution
Pantheism is monotheistic and non-hierarchical. Hierarchy, by definition, implies the existence of more than one thing, and any monistic theology is non-hierarchical.
Pantheism is non dualistic. It is a philosophy where we are all part of the divine. There is no distinct god. In monotheism, god is a distinct entity. I wouldn't categorize pantheism under monotheism.
I wouldn’t categorize pantheism under monotheism.
I would. Monotheism is any belief that prescribes the existence of a single God and its worship. I don't want to argue on semantics, but what else could Pantheism be if not monotheistic?
I think you'd run into trouble with the definition you've offered - worship of a single God. In Advaita Vedanta, as a prominent age old example of pantheism, we are all part of the divine. There is not worship of a distinct entity seperate from ourselves, which is a defining characteristic of the practical application monotheism.
Sufism on the other hand has pantheistic elements (beleiving that all creation is part of the divine) but ultimately includes worship of a single distinct divine entity ie. Allah/God.
Agree that we don't need to go too deep into semantics.
I don't mind religious people if they respect my boundaries and aren't bigoted at least in my presence. But then again I meet too many religious people because that's reality where I live.
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davel@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 156d
HiddenLayer555@lemmy.ml · 15 pts · 156d
Actually, God doesn't love me. God's love is completely conditional on whether I believe in him or not. I don't get why Christians keep dancing around this fact.
TiredTiger@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 156d
"No no no, you don't get it. God threatens to torture you for all eternity BECAUSE he loves you!" /sarcasm, in case it wasn't obvious.
Seriously though, Christians will redefine the word "love" to justify whatever they claim their god does or doesn't do.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 11 pts · 156d
The worst is when it's your parents.
They don't seem to grasp that it's like telling someone that Santa loves them. Actually worse as Santa isn't known for being petty and genocidal
chobeat@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 156d
Hierarchy sells because it gives you a place that belongs to you, even when it's a shitty place. Having a place does wonder for depression, because it creates meaning.
Creating meaning without hierarchy is possible, though much harder.
When they sell you what I assume is the Christian God (not all Gods are hierarchical), they sell you an easy solution. Burgers make you full if you're hungry, even if they are not good for other parameters. But if a friend is starving and all you have is a burger, you offer a burger.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 156d
the burger exists and it will be my new god
chobeat@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 156d
found the American
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 155d
If that is all you require then I have the coolest god for you (it is Anteater God i hope you like eating ants) how do you feel about convergent evolution
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 156d
Hierarchy is inherent to monotheism specifically. Polytheism can be hierarchical but often is less so.
chobeat@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 156d
Pantheism is monotheistic and non-hierarchical. Hierarchy, by definition, implies the existence of more than one thing, and any monistic theology is non-hierarchical.
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 156d
Pantheism is non dualistic. It is a philosophy where we are all part of the divine. There is no distinct god. In monotheism, god is a distinct entity. I wouldn't categorize pantheism under monotheism.
chobeat@lemmy.ml · -1 pts · 156d
I would. Monotheism is any belief that prescribes the existence of a single God and its worship. I don't want to argue on semantics, but what else could Pantheism be if not monotheistic?
shawn1122@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 156d
I think you'd run into trouble with the definition you've offered - worship of a single God. In Advaita Vedanta, as a prominent age old example of pantheism, we are all part of the divine. There is not worship of a distinct entity seperate from ourselves, which is a defining characteristic of the practical application monotheism.
Sufism on the other hand has pantheistic elements (beleiving that all creation is part of the divine) but ultimately includes worship of a single distinct divine entity ie. Allah/God.
Agree that we don't need to go too deep into semantics.
CXORA@aussie.zone · 3 pts · 156d
Solutions have to work. Its kind of their thing.
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 156d
A lot of problems in Greece apparently started because a god loved someone...
theneverfox@pawb.social · 6 pts · 156d
Ugh... This happened to me. And that part didn't bother me so much as trying to arrange social interactions when I wanted to be alone to recharge
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 156d
I don't mind religious people if they respect my boundaries and aren't bigoted at least in my presence. But then again I meet too many religious people because that's reality where I live.
futurk@feddit.org · 1 pts · 156d