In a rebuke of his own party’s rhetoric, congressman Eric Swalwell said this weekend, “Now is the time for values-based arguments against war with Iran,” adding: “NOT process (‘Come to Congress’) ones.”
His point is well taken, but I’m skeptical that the opposition to the strike is focused on the machine that made it inevitable, instead of focused on Trump individually.
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floofloof@lemmy.ca · 73 pts · 193d
What a revolting display of writhing human invertebrates.
dazzlingclitgame@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 193d
UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 193d
Turns out Killing All The Brown People was a bipartisan consensus.
ruuster13@lemmy.zip · -3 pts · 193d
If the Dems called it full-on war, you'd say they're stoking full-on war. They can do nothing right if you decided long ago they do nothing right... which is exactly what the GOP propaganda machine has been encouraging you to think.
dazzlingclitgame@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 193d
nesc@lemmy.cafe · 21 pts · 193d
Obviously it's a 'special military operation'.
Dragomus@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
Or a special police action to fight the Nazi's?
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 193d
War is peace, don’t you know?
NOT_RICK_SANCHEZ@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 193d
Republicans like to call what is developing in Iran a “специальная военная операция” or more commonly known as Special Military Operation comrades.
einlander@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 193d
It's just Sparkling Conflict.
heavyboots@lemmy.ml · 21 pts · 193d
Don't worry, guys! If some country bombed, let's say for example, 2 of our buildings in NYC, would we treat that as act of war? Nah… probably not. Surely we'd just shrug and move on with peace negotiations!
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 193d
I also heard that when just a single harbor was bombed, that too was considered an act of war?
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 6 pts · 193d
No we would do the right thing and blame the religion that those people ostensibly used to justify their terrorism that about ~1 billion other people practice who don't commit terrorism, become super Xenophobic about it and violate the privacy of countless Americans who practice that religion (or I guess could be mistaken for doing so by idiots?) and completely avoid thinking about what motivated the acts of terror or what the intentions of the attack were (which was to get us to do exactly what we did to a T).
Geobloke@aussie.zone · 5 pts · 193d
Well, of course the US would declare war, but in their confusion they would pick two countries at random
foggy@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 192d
Canada and Mexico, I'm sorry. Iran is gonna have to invade. Obviously. Theyre upset that you hate their freedom I think?
blattrules@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 193d
Oh, not technically a “war” but a submarine just sank one of their battleships in international waters. That sounds like a war to me.
HermitBee@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 193d
I heard that the submarine captain said "no war" before the torpedoes were fired, so actually no, it's not a war.
PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 193d
Yes yes, of course the US can do all the war stuff, including war crimes, but unless our sacred institutional leaders all agree to call it a war and then sign the sacred war parchment after the master of arms holds the staff of truth then obviously it's not a war. Great stuff, very compelling world we live in.
panda_abyss@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 193d
This is either a war or an international war crime and you have to remove him plus Hegseth from office.
Decide you fleckless sycophants.
JennyLaFae@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 193d
Schrodinger's war: it's only a war if they're confident in winning, otherwise it'll be some euphemism like police action.
CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 193d
I saw that dumbass Anna Paulina do a bunch of semantic games over "boots on the ground". It was a real WTAF moment.
itsgroundhogdayagain@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 193d
We ran out of missiles, Lindsey
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 192d
"You will die in our wars and you'll thank us for it."
someguy3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
To Trump and Hegseth there's no boots on the ground so no war. Trump doesn't want imagery of people being blown up by IEDs, he wants planes and maybe some special force operation.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 193d
Actually, I think he does want that, it makes his job much easier once everybody is shocked by those images, then it becomes time to be patriotic and unify not ask questions.
Is that what will happen? I don't know, but I am confident that is what Trump and Steven Miller think will happen.
someguy3@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 193d
That will tank his popularity, not increase it. Now if Iran attacks the US, who the fuck knows.
Trump doesn't like, you know, war. IEDs are war, bombing isn't like, you know, an actual war. It's just bombing and stuff. /s
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 193d
What evidence do you have of this?