TIL that the worst driver in New York City likes to drive around in Brooklyn. He received 259 speeding tickets and paid over $60,000 in fines.
https://www.bkreader.com/non-profit-community/half-of-nycs-top-speeders-drive-in-brooklyn-11955084/
https://www.bkreader.com/non-profit-community/half-of-nycs-top-speeders-drive-in-brooklyn-11955084/
28 Comments
IntrovertTurtle@lemmy.zip · 151 pts · 154d
So they haven't revoked his license and impounded everything he drives because...?
Edit: oh it's because he's not poor.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 70 pts · 154d
New York even has a points system that results in license revocation if they build up. Sounds like they simply aren't using it. A bunch of the speeders also haven't paid their tickets, which also should result in license revocation.
NYC seems to be willfully incompetent.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 154d
Most states don't apply points for camera fines because the camera cannot identify who was driving. The laws are different vs fines issued by police.
nogooduser@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 154d
In the UK, they write to the registered keeper of the vehicle to ask who was driving.
If the keeper doesn’t respond or doesn’t know who was driving then they get the fine and points themselves.
clay_pidgin@sh.itjust.works · 10 pts · 154d
That seems reasonable.
You could also theoretically have a system that confiscated a car once it has accumulated X points, no matter who was driving. I bet you'd be careful to whom you lend your car, and would teach your teens strictly!
Agent641@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 146d
In Australia the owner of the vehicle is presumed responsible. The owner must provide a statutory declaration (legal document that is punishable by jail time if you are caught lying on one) that the vehicle was being driven by someone else.
However, camera images are now good enough that it's easy to match face of driver with drivers license photo these days.
The only way to avoid demerit points is to register the car to a business, and the registered owner must sign a stat Dec confirming that they have no records of who was driving the car at the time, in which case demerit points are omitted and the fine is doubled.
So business owners here register their personal vehicles as company cars and pay extra licensing fees and double speeding fines to avoid demerits and losing their license. $400 - $1600+for a demerit-worthy speed. During public holidays, like Christmas, demerits and fines are doubled. So a business owner driving 100 in a 60 zone can pay $3200 if flashed by a camera on Christmas or Easter.
nogooduser@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 146d
Most of the cameras in the UK take photos from the back presumably to avoid the flash blinding the driver and/or to get motorcycles that only have a plate on the back. That means that we can’t rely on the photo to know who was driving.
Know_not_Scotty_does@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 154d
I mean, these jackasses are probably funding a sizeable chunk of the city with that many tickets...
FireRetardant@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 154d
Its about $230 per ticket. If they get them from cameras and don't fight them the city probably comes out on top. If it's cops pulling them over and they fight in court the profits evaporate pretty quick.
IWW4@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 154d
And you think that would stop him?
explodicle@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 153d
If he kept getting caught, then he'd wind up in prison. Judges get really mad when you just ignore them.
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 37 pts · 154d
This is why other countries have day fines. If fines were proportional to income, wealthy people couldn't just keep swatting them like mosquitoes.
It also seems like people have figured out the limitations of camera fines and how they have no effect on your license.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 154d
The article states a bunch of the fines aren't even paid; the fuck is NYC doing?
roofuskit@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 154d
Most state laws around camera fines are way softer than those from tickets issued by people. For one a camera cannot identify the driver of the vehicle so it's not technically a traffic violation on anyone's license, it's a fine levied against the owner of the vehicle.
These laws restrict what actions they can take against the vehicle owner because there's no proof they were driving.
kungen@feddit.nu · 4 pts · 154d
If you have no idea who's using your car to break laws repeatedly, shouldn't it be impounded?
Weird how a photograph wouldn't be able to identify a driver... sure, you can cast doubt, but unless you're wearing a mask it still should hold up in court...?
Tippon@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 154d
The camera isn't always facing the front of the vehicle, and even when it is, glare on the windscreen can obscure the driver.
Your first point absolutely stands though
shane@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 153d
I thought the idea was that I'm the USA you have the right to face your accuser in a court of law. If a citation is issued automatically, who is your accuser? (I AM NOT DEFENDING THIS POSITION.)
MagicShel@lemmy.zip · 28 pts · 154d
Is this guy the worst driver? 259 citations for speeding and no mention of any accidents despite frequently exceeding safe travel speed?
I'm not saying this should be ignored — I just object to the title. Surely there is at least one worse driver.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 154d
In a sense, if he can speed that often and never be involved in an accident, he might be a very good driver.
My mom is a significantly worse driver. She never speeds, but sometimes she drives so slowly on the highway that she's a danger to other drivers. In addition, many times, she has damaged her car trying to maneuver in an underground parking garage. AFAIK she has never been in an accident where someone was injured, so there are worse drivers out there.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 27 pts · 154d
Maybe - and hear me out - he shouldn't be allowed to drive.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 154d
I vote we give him 5 licenses and start cloning him.
xxce2AAb@feddit.dk · 10 pts · 154d
While it's definitely a source of income that could be used for the betterment of New York City, alternatively you could always just tax the kind of assholes who can afford to pay $60k in fines for the privilege of potentially turning somebody into a smear.
LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 154d
Yo we almost there
So many pedestrians would be in trouble come Manhattan. The roads just not big enough for 5 of them
jtrek@startrek.website · 23 pts · 154d
Revoke their license. Scale fines with wealth. Mandate thousands of hours of community service for speeders. Don't just do nothing and hope it sorts itself out.
andros_rex@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 153d
My ex was a nepo baby. He had so many speeding tickets. Didn’t give a shit about playing video games on his phone while driving. Fines don’t work when you could spend that same amount on a weeknight dinner without blinking.
ieatpwns@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 154d
When the previous mayor is an ex dirty cop they just ignore the points to keep filling those quotas
lemjukes@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 154d
primary source: https://transalt.org/press-releases/like-shooting-a-gun-into-a-crowd-just-10-drivers-threaten-25-million-new-yorkers-according-to-new-data-from-transportation-alternatives-and-families-for-safe-streets
Last year's report: https://transalt.org/reports-list/yn29thckywv9n0qpsv4jb1ab07nryp
TwilitSky@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 154d
Still the best driver in any other state.