EU parliament votes against scanning of private chats

https://www.patrick-breyer.de/en/historic-chat-control-vote-in-the-eu-parliament-meps-vote-to-end-untargeted-mass-scanning-of-private-chats/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.today/post/49179218

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unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 56 pts · 176d (6 replies)

Around 99% of all chat reports sent to police in Europe come from a single US corporation: Meta. US tech giants are acting as private auxiliary police forces—without any effective European oversight.

Thats very interesting. Assuming that whatsapp is actually e2ee that means instagram, facebook and threads account for 99% of all chat reports. That means all dms on there have been getting scanned. Sounds like people should leave those platforms.

lumen@feddit.nl · 31 pts · 176d (3 replies)

Not true for WhatsApp. It has a report function that forwards the last 5 messages in the conversation to Meta when used.

bless@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 176d (1 reply)

Could it be that the client (who has the keys to decrypt the message) just forwards those messages when the report is sent?

lumen@feddit.nl · 1 pts · 175d

Yes, that’s exactly how it works.

unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 176d

Didnt know that, i think i havent used it for over a decade.

Coleslaw4145@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 176d

Or maybe people are mislead by (and putting to much trust in) the term "end-to-end encryption"

Sure its encrypted in transit between you and the person you're exchanging messages with.

But that doesnt mean the Whatsapp app itself isnt scanning your chats on the phone.

RblScmNerfHerder@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 176d

Yep. Ugh, garbage companies!

MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 40 pts · 176d

Thank fuck.

For now.

RedGreenBlue@lemmy.zip · 31 pts · 176d (1 reply)

The push for Chat Control is heavily driven by foreign-funded lobby groups and tech vendors.

Scrollone@feddit.it · 9 pts · 176d

You don't say!

XTL@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 176d

It'll be back.

1984@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 175d

Comes back again and again.

asudox@lemmy.asudox.dev · 5 pts · 176d (1 reply)

Once again. In a few months, they'll do the same and this will repeat until the law passes.

voxel@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 176d

You didn't even understand the context. It's about a law that already passed as temporarily and is about to run out.

Twongo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 175d (2 replies)

isn´t this like the 3rd time already? lol I talked to a few MEPs about chat control and other stuff - while the focus was on chat control the EU got this shit sneakily approved

hhg@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 175d (1 reply)

Why is that bad? The linked article barely says anything

Twongo@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 175d

sorry, this should provide more context (german though)

dessalines@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 176d (1 reply)

To do this effectively, they'd have to ban facebook/whatsapp, which are the two most popular chat apps in Europe.

WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works · 4 pts · 176d

not really. there are several ways they could implement it

Tenderizer78@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 175d

Is this AI generated?

It has an m-dash and uses the phrase "hard facts".