Ontario to introduce bill exempting Premier, cabinet from FOI requests

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/canada/article-ontario-freedom-of-information-requests-premier-cabinet/

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.ca/post/61737959

The utter audacity of this.

The exemptions would be retroactive, meaning all existing, outstanding requests for information from these offices would be scrapped, including Mr. Ford’s phone logs.

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kat_angstrom@lemmy.world · 63 pts · 149d

Yup, that's exactly what a corrupt politician would do

a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca · 31 pts · 149d (6 replies)

The exemptions would be retroactive

Makes me think that they must have got wind of a FOI request that requests some info that they really don’t want to get out

BuoyantCitrus@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 149d (3 replies)

The proposed changes follow the government’s loss of a court battle, initially launched by Global News, over the call logs for Premier Doug Ford’s personal cellphone, which he uses for government business.

a_gee_dizzle@lemmy.ca · 17 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Yeah. Must be something real juicy in those call logs

kent_eh@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 148d

A lot of calls to a certain resort in Florida?

MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 148d

Anyone that thinks their phone calls are private really needs to look into the reality of the situation

IrateAnteater@sh.itjust.works · 12 pts · 149d (1 reply)

I'm putting my money on kickbacks relating to Ontario Place.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 11 pts · 149d

or the RCMP Greenbelt investigation..LOL.. as if.

minorkeys@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 149d

So they can hide wrongdoing and incompetence. Absolutely insane when right wingers demand shit like this. It's anti democratic and ensures increases in wrongdoing and incompetence.

DCinBC@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 148d

That’s like… that’s like an open admission that they plan to do corrupt things.

I mean imagine if your contractor said, “Well, I’d like to do this job for you but I want you to agree that you don’t need a quote and you won’t hire an inspector to check my work.” Or if your dealer at a casino said “Let me just deal the hands out behind this screen here where you can’t see what I’m doing, trust me bro.”

Transparency is the only thing that keeps politicians or business people honest.

When they openly say they don’t want transparency, they are telling us that they plan to be dishonest. It’s that simple.

Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 21 pts · 149d (3 replies)

What's he hiding?

veeesix@lemmy.ca · 10 pts · 148d

His Basket Weaving PhD.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 149d

you'll never know.

mpp@mstdn.social · 2 pts · 149d
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corsicanguppy@lemmy.ca · 20 pts · 148d (1 reply)

In case you didn't remember the cons still ran Ontario...

twopi@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 148d

Still run. And still have a majority, got a third straight one last year.

tehWrapper@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 149d (1 reply)

If our taxes are paying you we have a right to know.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 4 pts · 149d

they guy yelling at people to get a job?

Undearius@lemmy.ca · 18 pts · 148d

Through the process, the government has admitted Ford uses his personal phone for government business, but argued it would be an invasion of his privacy to release it.

Then don't do public business on a private device.

Thedogdrinkscoffee@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 149d (1 reply)

Conservatism consists of exactly one proposition, to wit: There must be in-groups whom the law protects but does not bind, alongside out-groups whom the law binds but does not protect.

minorkeys@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 149d

More like, "I should be able to do whatever gets me what i want."

DarylInCanada@lemmy.ca · 9 pts · 147d (1 reply)
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ieGod@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 147d

Not a law yet, technically.

tehWrapper@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 148d
ZC3rr0r@piefed.ca · 9 pts · 148d

"Ontario still sliding towards authoritarianism", this and other obvious news at 5.

Doomsider@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 148d

So much corruption.

ivanvector@piefed.ca · 8 pts · 149d

There is obviously something bad that has already been identified by an FOI request that they don't want to be made public. There's no other conceivable reason to do this at all, and there is no possible way this can be of any benefit to taxpayers or residents of Ontario at all.

mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 147d

Can't spell corruption without an o, p, and c.

SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 149d (1 reply)

we have to see who in the press asked for an FOI and what about.

But FFS Ontario, what do you see in this guy? Is is sex appeal?

MacroCyclo@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 148d

Oh you bet it's sex appeal

betanumerus@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 148d (5 replies)
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Jarix@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d (3 replies)

Fucking laughable, we already do

ieGod@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 147d (2 replies)

Do you have specific examples? Or is this a commentary on just how much you can afford to spend on a legal team?

maplesaga@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 146d (1 reply)

Anyone with "generational trauma"?

ieGod@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 144d

So maybe I'm very misinformed, but I'm unsure how this is an example of different rules. Care to elaborate? I can generously grant that social pressure/policy/issues don't provide supports but the legal framework doesn't to my knowledge favour any one class (aside from how much you want to spend on a legal team), and further, such effects are often taken into consideration by judges (if and when it gets that far).

Soup@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 147d

Who’s gunna stop them, another sub-50% voter turnout because the Canadian electorate ranges from insane conservative morons to completely uninformed “moderates” with only a small amount of progressives who often get easily scared into letting the center and right get away with shit like this?