US Secretary Of Defence Hegseth Promises Iranians ‘No Quarter’ – A War Crime
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/us-secretary-of-defence-hegseth-promises-iranians-no-quarter-a-war-crime_uk_69b577c8e4b099499831b8af
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bus_factor@lemmy.world · 118 pts · 175d
Also a great way to make the enemy fight to the death, causing you more casualties in the process. What a dumbass.
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 46 pts · 175d
I think that's the intent here. They need a new forever war.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 175d
Different scope, though. I don't think quarter or no quarter affects the whole country's willingness to surrender (the chance of that is basically zero either way), but it does affect individuals. If you have a few enemy combatants holed up somewhere, it could cost you a lot of people, ammo and time you'd rather spend somewhere else to take them out. They know they can't win, and it's either surrender or die. But if surrender means death, they'll definitely not surrender. Now you need to eliminate them the hard way.
Of course, doing it that way requires more resources, which I guess is good for business in the military industrial complex.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 5 pts · 175d
The dream of any fascist.
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 175d
I'm sure Trump has convinced himself that if we're in the middle of a meat grinder war, we won't want to "switch horses midstream," the phrase Nixon used to convince people to vote for him in 1972, so he could finish the war.
Trump thinks we'll beg him to remain in office and fight this war as only he knows how to do.
not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 175d
serious question, what do they stand to gain from that.
The american people aren't behind this, you could make the argument that it served to rally europes political class behind the US again but i don't think that's a priority for the trumo administration
Madison420@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
War powers - cancel election - narrow all power into the executive - god king names successor probably Barron
Essentially North Korea
Embargo@lemmy.zip · 48 pts · 175d
Where are the repercussions though? I'm not sure laws mean anything anymore... other than being a tool of oppression of course.
TachyonTele@piefed.social · 35 pts · 175d
I think the world has to sanction the US. The mechinisms to prevent and punish whats going on from within have failed. The rest of the world has to stand up and say No.
But it's spreading fast to other countries too.
peoplebeproblems@midwest.social · 5 pts · 175d
I think we're beyond the point of sanctioning the US being effective. We have carrier groups all over the world. If the regime wanted it? They can get more.
Olhonestjim@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 175d
Denying the use of ports is a good start.
bus_factor@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 175d
You just know the defense will be "he doesn't know what it means, he just heard it in a movie once and thought it sounded badass".
Soulg@ani.social · -4 pts · 175d
Right now, nothing, because his party controls both houses in Congress.
In the future, the potential for consequences does exist, but who knows if we'll see them
UnspecificGravity@piefed.social · 19 pts · 175d
American admin war crimes don't get punished by either party.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 175d
Why no high ranking officials got punished for the Iraq war when dems controlled both?
pinto@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
I can count how many, and it's less than 1.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 174d
Chelsea Manning? Or the Seargent and lower rank people from Abu Graib selfies?
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 31 pts · 175d
This dude is so extreme and fascist its kinda unbelievable from straight up sharing posts that women shouldn't vote to upfront not even trying to hide it christian nationalism and crusade worship.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 175d
Even Russia takes prisoners...
Its how you get your own people back in trades...
Cort@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 175d
Have you not seen what Trump said about POWs like McCain?
Trump doesn't want to get any POWs back.
NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 175d
I vaguely recall it was something very offensive, but cant remember what.
EvilHankVenture@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 175d
That's a safe bet. He said he was a loser for getting shot down basically.
Jax@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 174d
Suckers, as well.
Steve@startrek.website · 11 pts · 175d
Why would you want captured losers to come back?
BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today · 25 pts · 175d
Who do these guys think their impressing with their movie tough guy behavior? It's just pathetic and weak.
Bakkoda@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 175d
It's fanatascism.
Akh@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 175d
This dude though call pf duty was real life
toiletobserver@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 175d
He's an asshole, sir
twjolson@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 174d
To be fair, he probably thinks the phrase means not to give the enemy money.
KingPapaDaddy@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 174d
"No quarters or dollars for you!!"
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 174d
This happened to me once. Got a dollar fifty in fucking pennies, didn't even piss them off they legit just had that many pennies and I rolled bad.
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 9 pts · 175d
That pic of him screams IN A VAN, DOWN BY THE RIVER.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 3 pts · 175d
Im getting shades of “child that doesnt want to eat his vegetables”, and a note of “incel incapable of finding a willing sexual partner”
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 175d
I’m sure there are women who would date that guy.
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 174d
sure, insufferable women who value themselves less than a pet.
DragonAce@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 174d
Jesus this man is a fucking idiot.
humanspiral@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 174d
There is both decency and negotiating leverage that could have been obtained by rescuing the Iranian ship they ambushed. US is planning an extremely low probability of success escort or landing mission, where standards of military decency would make US troops less scared.
Strawberry@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 175d
They almost certainly did this in venezuela too
GreenKnight23@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 174d
as the great Shit-zu said,
Wilco@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 174d
You ever suspect certain people were given government jobs because someone thought they were an asshole and decided they should be set up to go to prison? Hegseth seems like he was put in office for the specific purpose of taking a fall like the idiot he is.
Bloomcole@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 175d
He sure has a big mouth while his military is getting their ass kicked.
There will not be any surrendering troops anyway.
For that you need an army to surrender to.
And a boots on the ground operation is 100% going to fail.
It is not possible in Iran due to geography and the vast size of the country.
Besides that they have advanced weapons and prepared for that.
If anything Iran would welcome such a mistake.
But who knows since the US gov doesn't listen to experts and keep making mistakes.
Like only yesterday bombing Kharg Island.
A gigantic blunder.
Edit: and then there's this news.
stupidcasey@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 175d
And given they explicitly offered to accept all surrendering individuals the choice to surrender without being charged you don't think maybe they were talking about the regime itself a regime that has betrayed that trust itself, also it's not even true since they offer the regime the choice of unconditional surrender qn absolute surrender is not a war crime that is just rejecting false surrender and faking a surrender is a war crime.
ToastedRavioli@midwest.social · 6 pts · 175d
Do you really think one comma and one period is enough punctuation for an entire paragraph?
0_o7@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 175d
That just aligns with the all of the shit take he's spouting. You can see where his priorities lie.