You feel slightly uneasy as if power is being drawn to you. You begin to become more attractive. Suddenly, incels are messaging you. Trying to convince you that they are better than other men. This situation is getting out of hand. You wonder why they are all neckbeards. Where is all this "chivalry" coming from. Why are there so many fedoras in the profile pictures. The overwhelming thought of all things wrong with these men begin to weigh on you... What if... No you couldn't do that... What if you just blocked them? Would that be possible? According to Elon Musk you shouldn't be able to but then again he also seems like an incel.
You block them.
You wish to learn more about DnD and dice rolls.
Wait a minute, who are you? The voice narrating your thoughts?
and yes I am aware I'm working on a chin set myself, but I'm not out here calling attractive women "not 7s" for having... negative canthal tilt, which i literally just had to look up
The problem is the world is huge and even if 1% of people agree, that's a lot of people who feel like they finally found a community that welcomes them. Satire doesn't work so well if you don't know the people you're interacting with.
Didn't she post the picture and asked people to rate her?
I agree that it's ridiculous and insane but if she asked for being superficially rated and she gets that.... You really can't blame the guys rating her.
Almost everyone is uglier than this girl anyway. If she is a 7, we are 3. :)
Wow dude. We havent even seen the health stats from her apple watch. 7 is generous when we don't know her families history of heart disease. She's sitting at a generous 4 at best until we see her 23 and me.
Is that why the text they wrote was so disturbing to read? Have they lived in an echo chamber for so long that they think itâs okay to talk about a person like theyâre a cadaver. Fâing creepy
On one hand, rating peoples' appearance is the whole point of that subreddit, but on the other hand... My God, do these guys have a talent for making it disgustingly creepy.
I wouldn't even expect actual cosmetic surgeons to talk like that.
Okay so this is anecdotal but there is (was?) a subreddit called transpassing and I feel like it ended up having an unsettling vibe as well at times. People would end up giving opinions there that boiled down to âyou wonât pass until you get cosmetic surgeryâ. It felt like it fed into peopleâs anxieties about passing rather than being a positive environment, and as well became a space where transmedicalists could thrive.
I dunno I guess my point is that maybe itâs just a bad idea in general to have a space where you judge peopleâs appearance, because it will always devolve.
I went back to reddit after that whole âprotestâ and that sub got popular during that period, it kept popping up in /r/all front page for me. That probably shows what kind of people made it popular.
The whole thing is designed to allow them to call people (especially women) "mid". They arbitrarily chose to use a gaussian distribution pattern so they had an excuse not to give anyone a score beyond 6s.
But real answer is be a hugely successful fashion model who the sub creator found attractive. Then their "objective rating standards" would include arbitrary criteria to bundle your face in. The whole sub could be replaced with a trivial ML model if it were actually about just giving their "objective" ratings. The internal weights used by the ML model would make about as much sense as the crap spouted in the screenshot.
There is the tiniest, infinitesimal amount of value in the statement that, likely because of the way weâre all graded in school, we donât really use the full range of a 1-10 scale for attractiveness, and are sorta only really saying ugly, mediocre, attractive, or model.
There is zero value in saying that thatâs an issue and the solution is a psychopathic and dehumanizing system.
When it comes to looks, the only meaningful scale consist of a 0 (not attractive) and 1 (attractive). E.g., if a woman I am talking to doesn't find me attractive, there is zero practical difference between me looking like Chris Hemsworth or an ogre.
I know most Lemmy user's have a hate boner for Reddit for many other reasons than this, but IMO all of the /r/AmIUgly, /r/AmISexy, /r/rateme, and other rating subreddits are an absolute cancer on the site.
90% of posts are from new accounts with questionable verification methods, with the others being people trying to shill their OF profiles. I can accept that, but what really boils my piss is that almost all of the comments follow this pattern:
Slating anyone remotely attractive for being attention seeking, or posting incorrectly on a sub "intended for ugly people", all while that person only comments on the attractive people.
Obvious negging, as if giving some super attractive girl a 6/10 is going to make them jump into their DM's and ask "what can I do to be better for you sempai?"
The inevitable stalking of their account, attempt to give into their DM's, or reverse image search that ends up with a post on these subs gaining you 100 new IG followers and some thirsty cunts liking and commenting on your pics.
Toxic behaviour when someone tries to actually be nice, or to offer some friendly advice. If I had a penny for every time a woman commented on a post on those subs with some advice, only for some guy to shit on them and say "lol no they need to go to the gym"
Obviously, these subs are going to exist, but they just make me end up hating people, because it's always the same pattern.
It's literally misogyny. As soon as women get revealed as women on online spaces like Reddit, it's crazy to see how differently they're treated. But when you ask people like this why they don't have a girlfriend or get no play, they don't have near enough introspection to think maybe it's because of how they view women, and that women can pick up on it.
I vaguely remember evidence posted to reddit that the whole r/truerateme sub was started by 4chan incels to try and lower women's self esteem. Part of the plan was to post photos pretending to be super conventionally attractive women and give them low ratings anyway. IDR how conclusive it was in terms of proof, but it seemed more likely than not to me at the time.
That sub also had a "guide" to their rating system posted. I looked at it once, and the absolute lowest ratings were like burn victims or women with noticeable physical disabilities (which is in itself not a cool sentiment), but they had "example photos" of conventionally attractive female celebrities rated at like a 3. Their whole criteria were either subjective or inscrutable above that: you could randomly shuffle most of the chart and it would make as much sense, even if you bought into their idiotic logic (which again, you should not).
Anyway, attraction is way more subjective than any of these shitstains would have you think and everyone can be someone else's favorite.
The canthus (pl. canthi, palpebral commissures) is either corner of the eye where the upper and lower eyelids meet.[1] More specifically, the inner and outer canthi are, respectively, the medial and lateral ends/angles of the palpebral fissure. -Wikipedia
"Sorry babe, but your canthal tilt is wayyyyy off and I highly doubt your IQ is within the required 7 points of mine (15 points would be acceptable of you rated 7 or higher on the objective attractiveness rating scale)".
88 Comments
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 101 pts · 2y
The good thing about this is that I will never attract these guys.
wheresmypillow@lemmy.one · 69 pts · 2y
Tell me about your philtrum.
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 53 pts · 2y
It... exists
BarrelAgedBoredom@lemm.ee · 39 pts · 2y
Wrong answer! You're a -10/10, now you will never know my girth
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 30 pts · 2y
That's fine, I know my own
ChrisLicht@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 2y
Party on, girth.
Signtist@lemm.ee · 17 pts · 2y
Congrats! You don't have fetal alcohol syndrome!
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 2y
Well, that's good
Jumi@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
That's hot
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
I guess
Touching_Grass@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Curious
Prethoryn@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
Oh no your lack of belief in my actractiveness to you has made me attracted to you.
What do you do?
Roll a d20 this is a DnD scenario now.
Ew, well I am not attracted to you, internet stranger.
Wait, what if you were a woman? That would be less icky.
Ugh comments like this prove humanity has gone backward.
I am bored all of these are acceptable answers...
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 2y
I'll take the d20 roll
general_kitten@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 2y
you rolled 19 + modifiers
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 5 pts · 2y
I'm gonna be honest, I have no idea what that means
ToastyMedic@reddthat.com · 3 pts · 2y
A Critical success, just shy of an overwhelming critical success.
Prethoryn@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
You rolled a 6. This is a failed roll.
You feel slightly uneasy as if power is being drawn to you. You begin to become more attractive. Suddenly, incels are messaging you. Trying to convince you that they are better than other men. This situation is getting out of hand. You wonder why they are all neckbeards. Where is all this "chivalry" coming from. Why are there so many fedoras in the profile pictures. The overwhelming thought of all things wrong with these men begin to weigh on you... What if... No you couldn't do that... What if you just blocked them? Would that be possible? According to Elon Musk you shouldn't be able to but then again he also seems like an incel.
Xanvial@lemmy.one · 75 pts · 2y
This is satire, right?
right?
Kolrami@lemmy.world · 58 pts · 2y
It's not. That subreddit is garbage. The mods legit ban people if the user rates people higher than the mod wants.
ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud · 9 pts · 2y
Let them put themselves on the rating scale see how they fuckin do
Although their "primer" for men is probably about tilt angle of trilby, number of chins, and consistent neck hair within 3-5mm
ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud · 5 pts · 2y
and yes I am aware I'm working on a chin set myself, but I'm not out here calling attractive women "not 7s" for having... negative canthal tilt, which i literally just had to look up
soggy_kitty@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 2y
Yes but some people take that fact and ride the satire until death. This comment isn't real
Kolrami@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
The problem is the world is huge and even if 1% of people agree, that's a lot of people who feel like they finally found a community that welcomes them. Satire doesn't work so well if you don't know the people you're interacting with.
ikidd@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 2y
That's pretty funny, actually.
xxxSexMan69xxx@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 2y
No
FleetingTit@feddit.de · 3 pts · 2y
That is reddit. What a shithole.
cuacamole@feddit.de · 1 pts · 2y
Nah, its truerateme. The mods kinda make up the rating and anyone who does not rate right is banned.
kartonrealista@lemmy.world · 61 pts · 2y
You could present those guys with a supermodel or the fucking platonic ideal of a woman and they would go "that's 7.1 at most, stop overrating"
at_an_angle@lemmy.one · 42 pts · 2y
You get these guys in a room with any objectively good-looking woman in real life, and they would freeze up.
mustardman@discuss.tchncs.de · 24 pts · 2y
They don't freeze in fear. They freeze because they are analyzing that philtrum.
solinus@lemmy.cafe · 23 pts · 2y
they have a point
clearly cute nerdy girls with glasses or tomboys are superior smh đ€đ€.
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 24 pts · 2y
I don't care if it's knitting or being a tank mechanic, a girl nerding out over her interests is hella cute.
Or anyone else, for that matter.
eodur@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
100%, nerding is hot. That look of excitement and focus does a whole lot.
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 13 pts · 2y
Right? A person telling you all about that thing they're passionate about is straight up beaming when they do it, I love it.
ivenoidea@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 2y
This is their guide in case youâre curious who they would consider 10/10.
https://imgur.com/hWkcI8p
Fucking cringe.
Vlaxtocia@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 53 pts · 2y
MFers out here rating women like they're dogs at fucking crufts
1984@lemmy.today · 33 pts · 2y
Didn't she post the picture and asked people to rate her?
I agree that it's ridiculous and insane but if she asked for being superficially rated and she gets that.... You really can't blame the guys rating her.
Almost everyone is uglier than this girl anyway. If she is a 7, we are 3. :)
wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz · 63 pts · 2y
most posts on there are incels taking pics from girls social media and pretending to post as the girl
VelvetGentleman@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
This does not make it less moral, just more sad.
stillwater@lemm.ee · 7 pts · 2y
It definitely makes it less moral.
cubedsteaks@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 2y
more like a bot posted that picture.
ssfckdt@mastodon.cloud · 45 pts · 2y
why did you have to expose me to this nonsense
SternburgExport@feddit.de · 35 pts · 2y
Nikki@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 2y
shes pretty im envious
Venomnik0@lemm.ee · 14 pts · 2y
Actually she's quite a 8 or 9 rather for my score. You should checkout my ratemywomen page as well /s
Abnorc@lemm.ee · 31 pts · 2y
IDontHavePantsOn@lemm.ee · 8 pts · 2y
Wow dude. We havent even seen the health stats from her apple watch. 7 is generous when we don't know her families history of heart disease. She's sitting at a generous 4 at best until we see her 23 and me.
OmegaMouse@feddit.uk · 30 pts · 2y
No way, please tell me that subreddit is satire đ±
wetnoodle@sopuli.xyz · 39 pts · 2y
nah unfortunately it's a safe space for incels
LostDeer@infosec.pub · 23 pts · 2y
Is that why the text they wrote was so disturbing to read? Have they lived in an echo chamber for so long that they think itâs okay to talk about a person like theyâre a cadaver. Fâing creepy
miss_brainfart@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 2y
On one hand, rating peoples' appearance is the whole point of that subreddit, but on the other hand... My God, do these guys have a talent for making it disgustingly creepy.
I wouldn't even expect actual cosmetic surgeons to talk like that.
xxxSexMan69xxx@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 16 pts · 2y
They rate according to extremely rigid rules which, aside from being racist, are ridiculously unfair.
princessnorah@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 2y
Okay so this is anecdotal but there is (was?) a subreddit called transpassing and I feel like it ended up having an unsettling vibe as well at times. People would end up giving opinions there that boiled down to âyou wonât pass until you get cosmetic surgeryâ. It felt like it fed into peopleâs anxieties about passing rather than being a positive environment, and as well became a space where transmedicalists could thrive.
I dunno I guess my point is that maybe itâs just a bad idea in general to have a space where you judge peopleâs appearance, because it will always devolve.
SuperSaiyanSwag@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 2y
I went back to reddit after that whole âprotestâ and that sub got popular during that period, it kept popping up in /r/all front page for me. That probably shows what kind of people made it popular.
flamingmongoose@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 28 pts · 2y
What do you have to look like to achieve more than a 7? A biblically accurate angel?
toiletwhole@feddit.de · 23 pts · 2y
Totally would hit that.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
Yes. Specifically
key@lemmy.keychat.org · 9 pts · 2y
Too many eyes but not fat or disfigured. 4/10.
The whole thing is designed to allow them to call people (especially women) "mid". They arbitrarily chose to use a gaussian distribution pattern so they had an excuse not to give anyone a score beyond 6s.
But real answer is be a hugely successful fashion model who the sub creator found attractive. Then their "objective rating standards" would include arbitrary criteria to bundle your face in. The whole sub could be replaced with a trivial ML model if it were actually about just giving their "objective" ratings. The internal weights used by the ML model would make about as much sense as the crap spouted in the screenshot.
bouh@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 2y
Aren't biblically accurate angels androgynous?
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 2y
They're fucked up is what they are. See above and also
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Do keep up, Jenkins đ
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
No worries lol, sorry if my snark was needlessly harsh đ
Shiggles@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y
There is the tiniest, infinitesimal amount of value in the statement that, likely because of the way weâre all graded in school, we donât really use the full range of a 1-10 scale for attractiveness, and are sorta only really saying ugly, mediocre, attractive, or model.
There is zero value in saying that thatâs an issue and the solution is a psychopathic and dehumanizing system.
xxxSexMan69xxx@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 2y
When it comes to looks, the only meaningful scale consist of a 0 (not attractive) and 1 (attractive). E.g., if a woman I am talking to doesn't find me attractive, there is zero practical difference between me looking like Chris Hemsworth or an ogre.
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 2y
Duckduckgo doesn't seem to know what an ogre is..
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Apparently not. First Brave Search image for "Chris Hemsworth ogre":
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 2y
Yeah, probably
LordAmplifier@pawb.social · 3 pts · 2y
Biblically accurate angels are looking mighty fine though đ
Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
We must have very different criteria..
cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 24 pts · 2y
oh yeah this is why im sapphic
EnderMB@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 2y
I know most Lemmy user's have a hate boner for Reddit for many other reasons than this, but IMO all of the /r/AmIUgly, /r/AmISexy, /r/rateme, and other rating subreddits are an absolute cancer on the site.
90% of posts are from new accounts with questionable verification methods, with the others being people trying to shill their OF profiles. I can accept that, but what really boils my piss is that almost all of the comments follow this pattern:
Obviously, these subs are going to exist, but they just make me end up hating people, because it's always the same pattern.
t_jpeg@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
It's literally misogyny. As soon as women get revealed as women on online spaces like Reddit, it's crazy to see how differently they're treated. But when you ask people like this why they don't have a girlfriend or get no play, they don't have near enough introspection to think maybe it's because of how they view women, and that women can pick up on it.
BrotherL0v3@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 2y
I vaguely remember evidence posted to reddit that the whole r/truerateme sub was started by 4chan incels to try and lower women's self esteem. Part of the plan was to post photos pretending to be super conventionally attractive women and give them low ratings anyway. IDR how conclusive it was in terms of proof, but it seemed more likely than not to me at the time.
That sub also had a "guide" to their rating system posted. I looked at it once, and the absolute lowest ratings were like burn victims or women with noticeable physical disabilities (which is in itself not a cool sentiment), but they had "example photos" of conventionally attractive female celebrities rated at like a 3. Their whole criteria were either subjective or inscrutable above that: you could randomly shuffle most of the chart and it would make as much sense, even if you bought into their idiotic logic (which again, you should not).
Anyway, attraction is way more subjective than any of these shitstains would have you think and everyone can be someone else's favorite.
tram1@programming.dev · 20 pts · 2y
this is actually insanity...
captainlezbian@lemmy.world · 20 pts · 2y
Idk sheâd be prettier if she talked to a therapist about her insecurity in her appearance
CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net · 17 pts · 2y
Dudes out here comparing phrenology notes like that shit still valid.
Commiunism@lemmy.wtf · 14 pts · 2y
How these mfs sound like
_Sprite@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 2y
Anti_Weeb_Penguin@sh.itjust.works · 14 pts · 2y
I'm giving her a 11 out of 10
diskmaster23@lemmy.one · 2 pts · 2y
It goes to 11?
Slagathor@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 2y
Internet Comment Etiquette just did a video about this.
https://youtu.be/GA3-AhAMS8U?si=s2OsqfJOHiqGH_fZ
Duchess@yiffit.net · 9 pts · 2y
days like this, i'm happy to be fat and ugly
Squirrel@thelemmy.club · 5 pts · 2y
I guess if they've got clear criteria for their ratings... Nope, those subs are fucking weird.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 5 pts · 2y
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 2y
The canthus (pl. canthi, palpebral commissures) is either corner of the eye where the upper and lower eyelids meet.[1] More specifically, the inner and outer canthi are, respectively, the medial and lateral ends/angles of the palpebral fissure. -Wikipedia
ohlaph@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 2y
Thanks, Wikipedia bot.
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 2y
MeDuViNoX@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 2y
It's all good.
JohnBoBon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 2y
"Sorry babe, but your canthal tilt is wayyyyy off and I highly doubt your IQ is within the required 7 points of mine (15 points would be acceptable of you rated 7 or higher on the objective attractiveness rating scale)".
EmperorHenry@discuss.tchncs.de · 1 pts · 2y
pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 2y
alt
kilgore_trout@feddit.it · -1 pts · 2y
It's harmless and people there do ask to be rated this way. Let them.
HappyFrog@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 2y
No.