Are you talking about the Polish guy who is president of the expansionist settler colonial state called Israel in the Middle East?
Netenyahu is not even his real name, it was changed to sound more Middle Eastern. His real family name is Mileikowsky, lots of the Zionists changed their names in order to attempt to sound like they are from the area they are colonising despite not having a drip of Levantine DNA.
Unfortunately that's pretty much the fate of any attempt at revolution nowadays, the gap between how many a soldier can kill versus one civilian can kill is just too high. In the US where people have more rights and were more free to coordinate, it hasn't mattered how much ICE was outnumbered.
Successful revolutions don't start with the guns. They start with stoppage. Have all the worker bees go on strike and the railways, ports and airports stop working and see how far a regime lasts
That's another problem, people are not the borg, and they also need to survive. It's part of the reason authoritarian governments tend to play different regions and subcultures against each other.
Revolutions typically involve some level of military defection - troops refusing to fire on crowds, turning their guns around, etc. So it isn't impossible. In the case of Iran it basically is though, because people typically don't have revolutions when their country is in a war of national survival againt genocidal nazis.
That's true, but there's several problems with that: the social bubble of the people who serve in those military usually have some distance from the societal norm, violence and chaos makes the country susceptible to be picked off by special interests, and it basically means that at the end of the day their leaders have to be willing to relinquish power.
More seriously, they were never going to do it 10 years ago. In a different world, maybe they would have done it in 2020. A major economic collapse combined with military humiliation could perhaps make the time right.
It's foolish for Israel to encourage Iranians to revolt knowing that they would be slaughtered. In light of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, Israel should know better. In the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, the Jews had no choice since they would be exterminated anyway but Iranians are not facing the gas chambers.
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xerxes@piefed.social · 30 pts · 171d
"well that's a risk we're willing to take" - Israel, probably
masterofn001@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 170d
No probably.
Call me whatever, but the current AshkeNAZI in power in Israel is akin to Hitler in both monstrosity of his acts and evil of his intent.
Bibi is bent on genocide.
If there is a god that he represents it's ba'al zebub. King of shit. Lord of flies. Spreader of disease.
May he receive his biblical dues.
(*Nazi highlighted to reflect Bibi, not a blanket statement)
Lucius_Sweet@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
Are you talking about the Polish guy who is president of the expansionist settler colonial state called Israel in the Middle East?
Netenyahu is not even his real name, it was changed to sound more Middle Eastern. His real family name is Mileikowsky, lots of the Zionists changed their names in order to attempt to sound like they are from the area they are colonising despite not having a drip of Levantine DNA.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 171d
No shit...
Bibi and the rest of Israel's current government main goal is to kill as many non-Jewish people as possible.
If Muslims start killing Muslims, they don't care who wins. They're gonna keep bombing regardless
Keeponstalin@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 170d
They'll kill any Jewish anti-zionist that stands in their way too
lennybird@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 170d
Their self-culling is exactly what they're hoping for. Sick fucks.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 170d
By Israelis and american bombs
frongt@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 170d
No, by the IRGC.
TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org · 9 pts · 170d
Unfortunately that's pretty much the fate of any attempt at revolution nowadays, the gap between how many a soldier can kill versus one civilian can kill is just too high. In the US where people have more rights and were more free to coordinate, it hasn't mattered how much ICE was outnumbered.
db0@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 12 pts · 170d
Successful revolutions don't start with the guns. They start with stoppage. Have all the worker bees go on strike and the railways, ports and airports stop working and see how far a regime lasts
TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org · 3 pts · 170d
That's another problem, people are not the borg, and they also need to survive. It's part of the reason authoritarian governments tend to play different regions and subcultures against each other.
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 169d
Revolutions typically involve some level of military defection - troops refusing to fire on crowds, turning their guns around, etc. So it isn't impossible. In the case of Iran it basically is though, because people typically don't have revolutions when their country is in a war of national survival againt genocidal nazis.
TheObviousSolution@thebrainbin.org · 2 pts · 168d
That's true, but there's several problems with that: the social bubble of the people who serve in those military usually have some distance from the societal norm, violence and chaos makes the country susceptible to be picked off by special interests, and it basically means that at the end of the day their leaders have to be willing to relinquish power.
jefferyjefferson@lemmy.org · 0 pts · 170d
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 169d
And dead Iranians is what the Israelis want a lot of.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
oh hey this is exactly what everyone telling statesians to revolt is doing too
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 169d
Yes, but Americans have a responsibility to stop their rabid mad dog government before it's too late, while for Iranians it's more like the opposite.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 169d
before it's too late was like, ten years ago dude
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 169d
Yes, but the second best time is now.
More seriously, they were never going to do it 10 years ago. In a different world, maybe they would have done it in 2020. A major economic collapse combined with military humiliation could perhaps make the time right.
HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 169d
you're preaching to the choir, dude
panthera_@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 170d
It's foolish for Israel to encourage Iranians to revolt knowing that they would be slaughtered. In light of the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, Israel should know better. In the Warsaw Ghetto uprising, the Jews had no choice since they would be exterminated anyway but Iranians are not facing the gas chambers.
mrdown@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 170d
Israel want s civil war that's all