Systemd Introduces Birth Date Support for Upcoming Linux Desktop Age Controls
https://linuxiac.com/systemd-introduces-birth-date-support-for-upcoming-linux-desktop-age-controls/
https://linuxiac.com/systemd-introduces-birth-date-support-for-upcoming-linux-desktop-age-controls/
32 Comments
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 22 pts · 139d
The stupid thought I keep having is what stops someone from patching the functionality out?
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 35 pts · 139d
Nobody has to patch it out. The OS just doesn't have to use them.
As long as the OS doesn't implement age verification, that field in systemd means nothing. Some OS will have to do that - especially commercial distros based in murica. So the change within systemd is largely inconsequential, but people are freaking out about it - most likely because they don't understand systemd and what it does.
slazer2au@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 139d
Or people realise it's the thin edge of the wedge.
Look how much governments abuse data retention for law enforcement when the reason for storing the data is not for law enforcement.
If the functionality is already in the system then what is stopping more governments requiring it or expanding it.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 139d
Because having direct access to your system is something that would be incompatible with the constitution of most civilized countries and would therefore require massive legislative change. If a government is planning to do that, an additional field in systemd won't be the change that tips the scales.
What systemd is doing is giving OS's a somewhat standardized ways to save that information which prevents us from having 10 different ways of doing the same thing again - it's totally up to an OS to actually use and implement that field.
NewOldGuard@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 137d
The US government violates its own constitution all the time, that’s really not an impediment
pglpm@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 139d
If it means nothing, then why adding it?
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 139d
Because some OS vendors based in the US might have to comply with the law, if you like it or not. System76 or RedHat will not have a choice unless the laws will get repelled.
webp@mander.xyz · 0 pts · 138d
The law is unenforceable though.
realitaetsverlust@piefed.zip · 1 pts · 138d
Bro how the fuck is the law not enforceable if you're a company in the US? You either comply or get sued. It's just that simple. How is that so hard to understand?
xylol@leminal.space · 11 pts · 139d
Then I guess applications will just ask you to put your date like steam does instead of pulling the number you inputed from the system. Makes me wonder how many people were born on 1/1/1900 according to steam
qyron@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 139d
I'm here wondering if it will be a good time to switch over to Devuan
woelkchen@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 139d
LOL. Do you really think that because that thing is supported for commercial distros like RHEL, it would have any impact on the Debians etc. of the world?
randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 139d
Yes. But don't do as I do and try to patch an existing Debian 13.3 to Devuan on a Friday the 13th by following the instructions on the Devuan site. It didn't pan out and eventually required a reinstall after I tried to fix it all weekend.
hunger@programming.dev · 2 pts · 138d
You do not even need to patch it out. It is basically an extra entry in the user db (think: /etc/passwd). Just don't fill it in and you are done, just like your location and a ton of other stuff you can put there if you want to.
Nobody can read it outside your system either... it's a defined place when (not if -- not anymore) something wants to store that information. Better have a properly protected defined place ready than have 10 different programs request that info separately and store it all over the place.
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 20 pts · 139d
Time to boycott systemd. We’re not doing this slippery slope game. This red flag is the last straw!
Sxan@piefed.zip · 3 pts · 138d
Welcome! We've prepared a soft landing for you. Prepare to enjoy Linux again!
What's your distro of choice? Nearly every one has a systemd-less fork.
tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org · 2 pts · 138d
I recommend to also look at other operating systems. OpenBSD will never do any of that.
onlinepersona@programming.dev · 2 pts · 137d
What can it run? Is gaming on BSD a thing?
tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org · 1 pts · 137d
Yes. Steam works on FreeBSD, but most of us just play simpler games.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 137d
https://nosystemd.org/
Covenant@sh.itjust.works · -5 pts · 138d
Not sure but because they follow the law?
tux0r@snac.rosaelefanten.org · 10 pts · 138d
U.S. laws just shouldn't be for everyone.
gtrcoi@programming.dev · -7 pts · 137d
cheeseburger@piefed.ca · 16 pts · 139d
1970/01/01
HubertManne@piefed.social · 5 pts · 139d
people get so upset but I Im fine with anyone knowing my birthdate. Its 12/03/04 im proud to be um millenial? Z? what one was that year?
EpeeGnome@feddit.online · 7 pts · 139d
Seriously, no one would just lie to their own operating system. Just the good honest truth that I was born on 1/1/1900 for my OS!
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 139d
its like my microwave going back to november 11th 2011 every time there is a power outage. can't wait to use it but 18+11 is 29. so just a few more years as thats the gold standard of lazy.
aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 138d
I don't get it, am I stupid?
HubertManne@piefed.social · 5 pts · 138d
aichan@piefed.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 138d
OMG I really I am stupid, I just saw it. I was just in a demonstration so I had my mind clouded with 1312 so I was not seeing the obvious lol
HubertManne@piefed.social · 3 pts · 138d
whats wierd is my last comment was supposed to start with 1234 but somehow I caused a formatting for a 1. section table type thing. at least that is what I see now.
Bazell@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 137d
Providing support for a feature doesn't mean forcefully implementing it. I haven't seen any info about that all OS will use this feature as intended or use it at all.
org@lemmy.org · 2 pts · 139d
Boo