Hola,
I'm a native Spanish speaker from Spain (I live in the U.S., spoke English all my life with a native English speaking father and my English could be better than my Spanish). Since I am Spanish, we use vosotros. While I heard people in the U.S. learn "ustedes comen", I would say "vosotros coméis".
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atheqtpie@piefed.blahaj.zone · 23 pts · 152d
USA, they taught us that vosotros was used in Spain but that's it. They saw it inefficient as the Spanish speakers around us and the majority of Spanish speakers didn't use vosotros.
wendyz@piefed.social · 7 pts · 152d
Interesante, pero tienen razón
404found@lemmy.zip · 7 pts · 152d
I've been learning Spanish on my own and what I've learned agrees with what you stated.
Vosotros is a dialect of Spain, but it's rarely used outside of Spain.
teawrecks@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 151d
Yep, it was in the textbook, but just like the Barthalona lisp, it was basically a bit of trivia we were never expected to actually learn.
BeckyStjerne@nord.pub · 19 pts · 152d
Learning Spanish in school, USA. No, we learn "ustedes" for "y'all".
uuj8za@piefed.social · 8 pts · 152d
Half of the US used to be Mexico, so US Spanish is mostly Mexican Spanish. We don't use vosotros. My high school Spanish teacher (yes, I took it because it was easy) would always skip conjugations of vosotros entirely.
I don't think I've ever heard anyone use vosotros here. We understand it, but it's very uncommon. Univisión, Telemundo, Estrella, TeleXitos all mostly use Mexican Spanish. Same goes for the radio.
sundaylab@lemmy.ml · 7 pts · 152d
I was living in Spain for 25 years and there we would definitely use vosotros. Ustedes is used in middle and South America.
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 152d
I believe it is common in some South American countries. Uruguay is one IIRC.
sakuraba@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 152d
diemartin@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 152d
Uruguayan here.
Even though we learn(ed?) the conjugations as "yo como, tú comes, él come, nosotros comemos, vosotros coméis, ellos comen", Uruguayan Spanish uses neither "tú" ("vos" in informal contexts, and "usted" in formal contexts), nor "vosotros" (we use "ustedes").
So in actual everyday talk is "yo como, vos comés (*), él come, nosotros comemos, ustedes comen, ellos comen".
(*) Note the accent, I recently learned it's commonly called voseo rioplatense, or more formally, Español rioplatense.
ninjahedgehog@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 152d
En Argentina es lo mismo
A_cook_not_a_chef@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 152d
Through high school we learned both. I took Spanish all 4 years, but had different teachers throughout that time. Most tests and oral exams would allow either, but I do remember some looking specifically for ustedes.
In university we mostly used ustedes, but I had a professor from Spain who would use vosotros. He never expected us to use it but everyone was expected to understand it when reading or in conversation.
rbn@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 151d
German here. I learned tú (informal), usted (formal), vosotros (informal) and ustedes (formal). Teacher was from Spain.
wendyz@piefed.social · 1 pts · 150d
Fun, yes! That's what I know too!
teft@piefed.social · 3 pts · 152d
I learned spanish in colombia. I learned the vos conjugation (it's the best since it's so easy to conjugate) but never learned vosotros because they don't really use it where I live.
Soy de los EEUU pero vivo en Medellin.
wendyz@piefed.social · 2 pts · 152d
¡Qué interesante! Vivo en los EEUU como ya dije, jeje
Mothra@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 152d
Uso "ustedes", pero por supuesto que sé conjugar vosotros. Tal vez cometo algún error ya que no tengo costumbre de usarlo, pero sí, te lo enseñan en la escuela junto con todos los demás pronombres personales.
communism@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 152d
I was taught vosotros but I learnt in a country closer to Spain than to LatAm. I think they mentioned ustedes in later parts of the course but vosotros was the standard second person plural pronoun we were taught.
TheMadCodger@piefed.social · 3 pts · 152d
Uso "vosotros" pero vivía en España cuando aprendí. Pero la verdad es no estoy seguro de cómo se usa "usted" y me da miedo preguntar. 😂
reallykindasorta@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 152d
US midwest — I was taught both versions in school but we focused more on latin american/mexican spanish which more people around us spoke.
electric_nan@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 152d
I'm in my 40's, but I still remember my middle-school Spanish lessons: soy, eres, es, somos, sois, son. Of course, we were informed that the 'vosotros' form was particular to Spain.
neon_nova@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 152d
Over 20 years ago when I was in high school its was taught slightly. I think it was just to make us aware of it. But we did not focus on it at all if I remember correctly.
LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 152d
I was taught both, but i think my teacher only taught vosotros because he was from Spain. I don't remember it being in the actual book we used.
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 152d
Literally nobody has ever used vosotros outside of spain. I have heard "vuestra merced" in telenovelas lol
wendyz@piefed.social · 2 pts · 152d
Tienes razón
LeapSecond@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 152d
Equatorial guinea and the Philippines would like a word.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 151d
We learn it in school here in Argentina, but never use it outside of that context
Bluescluestoothpaste@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 150d
An Argentinean in the wild, FFFUUUUAAAAAA
JoMiran@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 152d
Vosotros for the old world.
Ustedes for the new.
Personally, I think its time to let Vosotros die.
wendyz@piefed.social · 4 pts · 152d
Hmmm, probablemente tienes razón. Yo, personalmente, uso "vosotros" y "ustedes" pero depende de con quién esté hablando.
AZERTY@feddit.nl · 0 pts · 152d
teft@piefed.social · 2 pts · 152d
Nah, ambas terminas son correctas pero la RAE recomienda usar “español”.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 151d
"Castellano" is the word used for Spanish in general in many countries in Latin America though