Honestly, I'd pay good money - all my money - if this ended capitalism (especially this late stage shit we're in), killed off corporations, and ushered in an era of progressive steps towards communism...
I don't think there's a huge amount of fertilizer going through the strait, saudia arabia is the only producer that would need to do that, and while they're in the top 5 fertilizer producers, they are #5 by a fair amount.
You had separated the two in your argument, so I focused on the fertilizer aspect which you had indicated as the most impactful. Regarding LNG, all of the countries combined that could be impacted by the strait's closure would only just pass Iran itself to hit the #3 spot, and that's mostly from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
All of them combined, including Iran, produce less than Russia alone, and nowhere close to the US. It's not so much that there will be shortages due to lack of supply, there will be shortages because it will get so expensive that poorer countries won't be able to afford it.
Or they start trading with Russia, giving them more funds for their invasion of Ukraine.
Lmfao oh fuck is that where that picture's from?! Oh god I think I remember that, now that you mention it. He was standing on some balcony right?? I totally forgot
This is referring to the fact that when oil gets more expensive, everything else does because oil is used to make fuel for transport of most resources in the supply chain. Because of how important is to the global economy, the exact disastrous effects are still unpredictable.
Lmao if that really happened, people better work really fucking fast on moving to electrical everything.
We're so good at working together at literally anything. Look how well the world handled covid! We all stayed home for just two weeks and didn't totally have a global pandemic that's lasted six years now.
Let me reiterate that:
We couldn't be asked to stay home even for a measley two weeks to eradicate a
G L O B A L
F U C K I N G
P A N D E M I C
THE ENTIRE P L A N E T
but yeah. No more oil? What could go wrong weeeeeee
We’ve spent nearly 100 years ignoring the problem and refusing to develop the alternative systems that would lower our reliance on oil. The modern society will never be able to move fully away from oil, there’s hardly a better solution for energy density.
But we could have still built the public rail systems to move people, built housing that was very energy efficient, designed our communities to be walkable, put solar panels on every rooftop etc. knowing that oil pollutants were a problem for the environment and a massive crutch that once broken, would collapse modern life.
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null@lemmy.org · 44 pts · 145d
Well, that's one way to speed up EV adoption.
Chivera@lemmy.world · 23 pts · 145d
Trump truly cares about climate change 😍
Jhex@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 145d
the very thing (along with renewables in general) he torpedoed hard last year…
burning bridges is idiotic… burning bridges you still need to cross is going full MAGA
lemmyng@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 145d
Yep, sadly he torpedoed potential supply as well. Honda, Ford, and other car companies announced cancellations of EV projects.
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 40 pts · 145d
At last, comrade Trump has assaulted capitalism! Long live he who prepares the world for the great decoupling of fossil fuels
fonix232@fedia.io · 20 pts · 145d
Honestly, I'd pay good money - all my money - if this ended capitalism (especially this late stage shit we're in), killed off corporations, and ushered in an era of progressive steps towards communism...
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 13 pts · 145d
Me too. I only briefly entertained any delusions of being permitted to live a comfortable life in this system.
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
Just like your delusions about opossums eating ticks, amirite?? LOL gotem!
sad_detective_man@sopuli.xyz · 2 pts · 144d
That's not true I'm subscribed to opossum facts now!
Jimbabwe@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
Unsubscribe!! If you keep trying to better yourself this cyber bullying campaign of mine is going to fail!!
horn_e4_beaver@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 145d
Hey don't judge. Trump's just doing his best to combat climate change.
lividweasel@lemmy.world · 26 pts · 145d
Interactive version, so you can be as destructive as you know you want to be: https://editor.p5js.org/isohedral/full/vJa5RiZWs
NocturnalMorning@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 145d
Why is this so entertaining?
Ajzak@piefed.social · 6 pts · 144d
holy shit i loved that so much
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 145d
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 145d
I don't think there's a huge amount of fertilizer going through the strait, saudia arabia is the only producer that would need to do that, and while they're in the top 5 fertilizer producers, they are #5 by a fair amount.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/fertilizer-production-by-country
Telodzrum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 145d
Omgpwnies@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
You had separated the two in your argument, so I focused on the fertilizer aspect which you had indicated as the most impactful. Regarding LNG, all of the countries combined that could be impacted by the strait's closure would only just pass Iran itself to hit the #3 spot, and that's mostly from Qatar and Saudi Arabia.
All of them combined, including Iran, produce less than Russia alone, and nowhere close to the US. It's not so much that there will be shortages due to lack of supply, there will be shortages because it will get so expensive that poorer countries won't be able to afford it.
Or they start trading with Russia, giving them more funds for their invasion of Ukraine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_natural_gas_production
HugeNerd@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 144d
Could it be an emergency that is very long?
Areldyb@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 145d
Remember those "I did that" Biden stickers that dumbasses put on all the gas pumps a few years back?
I've been thinking about those a lot lately.
FrankDeath@infosec.pub · 6 pts · 144d
The Trump ones are funny because they use the pic of him looking into the eclipse without eye protection:
https://www.etsy.com/listing/1842758474/100pc-trump-i-did-that-stickers-gas-pump
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 144d
Lmfao oh fuck is that where that picture's from?! Oh god I think I remember that, now that you mention it. He was standing on some balcony right?? I totally forgot
Edit: https://imgproxy.newswav.com/1000x0,q50=/https://uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/04/trump.jpg
HAHAHAHAHA
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 144d
Nothing wrong, the price will rise the rich get richer. Its by design.
MashedTech@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
I accept donations via a GoFundMe to help rise above the threshold.
Fluffy_Ruffs@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 145d
Oil is one of the biggest blocks in that stack
marcos@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 145d
Highest, you mean? Because it's not stable at all.
And also, it's way down on the stack. The cartoon may apply better to oil than to OpenSSL.
rustyfemboy@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 145d
This is referring to the fact that when oil gets more expensive, everything else does because oil is used to make fuel for transport of most resources in the supply chain. Because of how important is to the global economy, the exact disastrous effects are still unpredictable.
SCmSTR@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 144d
Lmao if that really happened, people better work really fucking fast on moving to electrical everything.
We're so good at working together at literally anything. Look how well the world handled covid! We all stayed home for just two weeks and didn't totally have a global pandemic that's lasted six years now.
Let me reiterate that:
We couldn't be asked to stay home even for a measley two weeks to eradicate a
G L O B A L
F U C K I N G
P A N D E M I C
THE ENTIRE P L A N E T
but yeah. No more oil? What could go wrong weeeeeee
tehn00bi@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 144d
We’ve spent nearly 100 years ignoring the problem and refusing to develop the alternative systems that would lower our reliance on oil. The modern society will never be able to move fully away from oil, there’s hardly a better solution for energy density.
But we could have still built the public rail systems to move people, built housing that was very energy efficient, designed our communities to be walkable, put solar panels on every rooftop etc. knowing that oil pollutants were a problem for the environment and a massive crutch that once broken, would collapse modern life.
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 144d
"I did it!"
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 145d
The global economy is dying?
Good. Let it die.
https://www.sproutdistro.com/catalog/zines/theory/economy-suffering-let-die/
weeeeum@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 144d
Nope, the 1% is gonna gpbble everything up at fire sales. That's why trump blows up the economy every other fucking month.
Hes destroying and devaluing it to steal it.
phoenixz@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 144d
I wonder if Randall could have ever for seen this image taking such a flight that now it has trump in it...