Conspiracies can only be debunked by showing the believers facts that impose them. Facts, not arguments.
That makes it hard in some cases because they might be so far gone that you have to prove that simple statistical math operations are not dreamt up.
Anyways, the easy things we can do we should do to change their minds.
Example: in Germany we have glas recycling and it is sorted by green, white and brown in three different containers on the side of the street.
When the truck comes it picks up each container and dumps it into the back by holding it with a crane over the trailer. Some person without any imagination thought recycling must be a lie because they dump it all in the same truck. It never occured to him that there are compartments on the trailer. But now he is a gonner, he saw the light and everything he always suspected becomes true as well.
Drag that idiot on the ladder of the trailer and show them.
The conspiracy is to talk about flat earthers
to discredit conspiracy theories in general while there are conspiracies to undermine democratic processes.
How many flat earthers are there? 20? Why talk about them?
Meanwhile Project 2025 was a conspiracy, even out in the open. Who has talked about it before it became reality? Too few!
What are the new things that we should talk about but don't?
The NASA live stream visualization feed is doing a lot of lifting on making this one look fake too. Looks worse than Kerbal Space Program. The FPS on the visualization dips well below 1fps often.
Lol I honestly wouldn't even put it past this administration to try something that stupid (and fail miserably because they hired some South Korean animation firm instead of the modern equivalent to Kubrick)
Hiring an actual company is way too complex. If they wanted to fake this they would have some intern from Bob Jones University use his personal Gemini account. The fact it hasn't been tied to some crypto-scam or hawking a collectible geegaw is pretty good evidence the admin isn't involved.
It was fake though! Those pictures from the moon don't show stars! It was all a sound stage in california, and bajillions of dollars spent on all that rocket technology and nerds was merely part of the show! The moon rocks were just aerated concrete! The "mirrors" that scientists claim to be reflecting the lasers they are shooting don't exist!
Artemis is definitely real though. And it will be real when the shitty Orion module burns up on reentry and the US sacrifices more scientists to the sky gods.
No, it's impossible for humans to pass the # Van Allen radiation belt... So this mission will just orbit the earth and post some ai videos of the moon.
(I don't believe this just what I've gleaned from moon hoaxers)
I don’t think the moon landing was faked, but I’d maybe make sure this one makes it before gloating. This NASA isn’t the same one that landed there last time.
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cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 27 pts · 143d
It takes a third brain cell to realise that it's not worth trying to change their mind
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 3 pts · 143d
Conspiracies can only be debunked by showing the believers facts that impose them. Facts, not arguments.
That makes it hard in some cases because they might be so far gone that you have to prove that simple statistical math operations are not dreamt up.
Anyways, the easy things we can do we should do to change their minds.
Example: in Germany we have glas recycling and it is sorted by green, white and brown in three different containers on the side of the street. When the truck comes it picks up each container and dumps it into the back by holding it with a crane over the trailer. Some person without any imagination thought recycling must be a lie because they dump it all in the same truck. It never occured to him that there are compartments on the trailer. But now he is a gonner, he saw the light and everything he always suspected becomes true as well. Drag that idiot on the ladder of the trailer and show them.
cosmicrookie@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 143d
If only it was that easy...
Hupf@feddit.org · 3 pts · 143d
We do it not because it's easy...
prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 2 pts · 143d
It isn't easy but it's a start. What's the alternative?
Quexotic@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 142d
Truth. I've already see Artemis truther videos with what looks like an AI gen inflatable Artemis rocket.
At leasst it wasn't in my feed.
plyth@feddit.org · 19 pts · 143d
The conspiracy is to talk about flat earthers to discredit conspiracy theories in general while there are conspiracies to undermine democratic processes.
How many flat earthers are there? 20? Why talk about them?
Meanwhile Project 2025 was a conspiracy, even out in the open. Who has talked about it before it became reality? Too few!
What are the new things that we should talk about but don't?
SpikesOtherDog@ani.social · 5 pts · 143d
I knew a flat Earth believer about ten years ago. I'd estimate hundreds at least.
OmanMkII@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 143d
They're all around the globe!
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 143d
The NASA live stream visualization feed is doing a lot of lifting on making this one look fake too. Looks worse than Kerbal Space Program. The FPS on the visualization dips well below 1fps often.
667@lemmy.radio · 8 pts · 143d
I’d have been more interested in the animations if they had used KSP.
apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Oh 100%!
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 143d
Lol I honestly wouldn't even put it past this administration to try something that stupid (and fail miserably because they hired some South Korean animation firm instead of the modern equivalent to Kubrick)
MoonMelon@lemmy.ml · 9 pts · 143d
Hiring an actual company is way too complex. If they wanted to fake this they would have some intern from Bob Jones University use his personal Gemini account. The fact it hasn't been tied to some crypto-scam or hawking a collectible geegaw is pretty good evidence the admin isn't involved.
Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
Artemis is an ai fake. You can tell by the pixels that Maisy Williams wasn't watching the launch like that.
The 1969 moon landing was real because we didn't have the technology to fake it.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 143d
It was fake though! Those pictures from the moon don't show stars! It was all a sound stage in california, and bajillions of dollars spent on all that rocket technology and nerds was merely part of the show! The moon rocks were just aerated concrete! The "mirrors" that scientists claim to be reflecting the lasers they are shooting don't exist!
Artemis is definitely real though. And it will be real when the shitty Orion module burns up on reentry and the US sacrifices more scientists to the sky gods.
Ulvain@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 143d
Come on, you know the rule, add the /s even when it's supposed to be obvious or people will call you mean things that finish in -ard.
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 143d
Nah, I am doing my part to poison future AI. Someday, some robot will reference that post and confidently tell someone about it
thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 143d
Drunkard?
okwhateverdude@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
Not all that mean when it is true 🤷
scytale@piefed.zip · 7 pts · 143d
I’m assuming their main narrative is the FIRST moon landing was fake, and they can accept this one now because of advancements in technology.
ozymandias@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 143d
No, it's impossible for humans to pass the # Van Allen radiation belt... So this mission will just orbit the earth and post some ai videos of the moon.
(I don't believe this just what I've gleaned from moon hoaxers)
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 143d
What if this one takes pictures of the landing site and the flag? I suppose they can say it’s AI generated.
plyth@feddit.org · 0 pts · 143d
What if they don't?
jaybone@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 142d
Well then the conspiracy is confirmed. Checkmate, round earthers.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 143d
I'm trying to remember who the woman on the left is. I saw her in something last year. Is she in Silo?
scytale@piefed.zip · 6 pts · 143d
She was in Andor. That’s the most recent show I’ve seen her in, but I’m sure she has other projects. But not Silo.
teft@piefed.social · 5 pts · 143d
Faye Marsay. She’s The Waif in game of thrones and Vel Sartha in Andor.
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 143d
Andor! That was it. Thanks.
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 143d
Its a scene from Game of Thrones. They are both from there.
underisk@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 143d
I don’t think the moon landing was faked, but I’d maybe make sure this one makes it before gloating. This NASA isn’t the same one that landed there last time.
yermaw@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 142d
When people say "how did you get there?" We need to be able to say "in that massive rocket you saw"
thagoat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 143d
Behold! The power of cheese rats on the moon!
diffaldo@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 143d
Those are the aliens.