EDIT: OP has changed the title of the post since. Regardless, thank you OP for the confirmation/clarification! FWIW, I really like Eylenburg's resource on this.
KDE based in germany easy to use for beginners and highly configurable for those that want that ability. They have a fully integrated software suite that has basically become the default for many distros even if they aren't using plasma.
I would rather rephrase this to "Does not expose many knobs for customization by default.". Because -frankly- between dconf, extensions and CSS; the possibilities are actually quite expansive. So much so, even, that a KDE dev said regarding GNOME: "sometimes it (read: GNOME) can be customized better than KDE". (They say this literally in the first 10 seconds or so.)
Another striking example of the breadth of GNOME's customization would be how Niri was heavily inspired by GNOME's PaperWM extension. (Source) So, GNOME's customizability has allowed the creation of a new workflow that eventually served as a direct inspiration for one of the most exciting WMs we've got.
Well, yes; after all, I have been able to modify even proprietary software to fit my own preferences; but it's clear (and also explicitly stated) that it's supposed to be used mostly as-it-comes.
I can't say I've tried Niri or PaperWM before, but if they're based on GNOME then maybe I'm being a little harsh.
Best way to figure out which one you're happiest with is to try them out yourself, or look at an existing comparison list. Or else pare things down to a more specific question, because I doubt anyone is going to do a lengthy comparison here.
Highly recommend this. Spent months with hyprland then sway and eventually realized I prefer a traditional DE but I was glad to have tried them and learning them felt great.
They should at least have tried one of them and tell people what they don't like about it. But no, just a prompt-like question: Summarise XYZ, with pros and cons and tables and citations and screenshots.
I found windows snapping worked better for me with kde plasma than gnome. Outside of that I don't have much. Im pretty lazy and the fact I finally installed kde is sorta telling on the difference.
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OUwUO@programming.dev · 27 pts · 128d
Do you mean Desktop Environments?
EDIT: OP has changed the title of the post since. Regardless, thank you OP for the confirmation/clarification! FWIW, I really like Eylenburg's resource on this.
Sunshine@piefed.zip · 8 pts · 128d
Yes I would like to learn about those.
thingsiplay@lemmy.ml · 25 pts · 128d
The Archwiki has a nice list with a simple explanation for various DEs: https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Desktop_environment
ClownStatue@piefed.social · 8 pts · 128d
I don’t even use arch (btw), but damn its wiki is so well done!
scintilla@crust.piefed.social · 15 pts · 128d
KDE based in germany easy to use for beginners and highly configurable for those that want that ability. They have a fully integrated software suite that has basically become the default for many distros even if they aren't using plasma.
heliotrope@retrofed.com · 14 pts · 128d
Obviously check out Eylenburg's page and the ArchWiki, but here are my two cents on a bunch of DEs:
::: spoiler This is going to be long
GNOME
Not particularly customisableCan be customised heavily, but the settings aren't exposed and the devs don't like it much.KDE Plasma
KDE Liquid
Xfce
LXQt
LXDE
MATE
Cinnamon
Budgie
deepin
Trinity
Enlightenment
COSMIC
Lumina
Pantheon
CDE
FVWM-Crystal
flamingos@feddit.uk · 6 pts · 127d
GNOME isn't actually based on GTK, the shell has its own widget framework called the Shell Toolkit: https://gnome.pages.gitlab.gnome.org/gnome-shell/st/index.html
heliotrope@retrofed.com · 1 pts · 127d
Fixed
OUwUO@programming.dev · 6 pts · 127d
Great write-up! Thank you for the effort!
Though, if I may: Regarding GNOME, you said:
I would rather rephrase this to "Does not expose many knobs for customization by default.". Because -frankly- between dconf, extensions and CSS; the possibilities are actually quite expansive. So much so, even, that a KDE dev said regarding GNOME: "sometimes it (read: GNOME) can be customized better than KDE". (They say this literally in the first 10 seconds or so.)
Another striking example of the breadth of GNOME's customization would be how Niri was heavily inspired by GNOME's PaperWM extension. (Source) So, GNOME's customizability has allowed the creation of a new workflow that eventually served as a direct inspiration for one of the most exciting WMs we've got.
heliotrope@retrofed.com · 3 pts · 127d
Well, yes; after all, I have been able to modify even proprietary software to fit my own preferences; but it's clear (and also explicitly stated) that it's supposed to be used mostly as-it-comes.
I can't say I've tried Niri or PaperWM before, but if they're based on GNOME then maybe I'm being a little harsh.
Thanks for the complements!
OUwUO@programming.dev · 2 pts · 127d
I definitely agree with you on GNOME being rather opinionated. Perhaps more so than most other DEs.
Anyhow, thanks again for appreciating my input and compliments!
hperrin@lemmy.ca · 13 pts · 128d
https://itsfoss.com/best-linux-desktop-environments/
Die4Ever@retrolemmy.com · 2 pts · 127d
good to see some screenshots
nyan@lemmy.cafe · 11 pts · 128d
Best way to figure out which one you're happiest with is to try them out yourself, or look at an existing comparison list. Or else pare things down to a more specific question, because I doubt anyone is going to do a lengthy comparison here.
scintilla@crust.piefed.social · 2 pts · 127d
Highly recommend this. Spent months with hyprland then sway and eventually realized I prefer a traditional DE but I was glad to have tried them and learning them felt great.
bobo@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 128d
Do you think people here are your personal LLMs? Literally posting a prompt...
BlindFrog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 127d
This was my first impression, too. Like they're used to typing orders at an LLM, but not used to the conversational style of a forum
bobo@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 127d
Nor are they used to making a bare minimum effort before feeling entitled to personalised search results.
racketlauncher831@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 127d
They should at least have tried one of them and tell people what they don't like about it. But no, just a prompt-like question: Summarise XYZ, with pros and cons and tables and citations and screenshots.
staircase@programming.dev · 1 pts · 127d
remember not everyone speaks english fluently
bobo@lemmy.ml · 2 pts · 127d
So OP can't watch a YouTube video nor read a top 10 DE list, but can read these comments and linked resources?
HubertManne@piefed.social · 4 pts · 127d
I found windows snapping worked better for me with kde plasma than gnome. Outside of that I don't have much. Im pretty lazy and the fact I finally installed kde is sorta telling on the difference.
Hisse@programming.dev · 2 pts · 125d
Try them, it's fun
refalo@programming.dev · 1 pts · 121d
What are the different verbs in English and how do they compare?
hexagonwin@lemmy.today · -2 pts · 127d
just try them yourself, it's not hard..