NilePink: Making my own estradiol from dairy products
(According to one random comment under hbomberguy's soy diet video, milk is full of mammalian sex hormones. I'm certain Nigel would be able to separate them, if that is true.)
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some, but I bet an entire gallon of hormone laden milk has less estrogen than the average trans person takes on the daily.
I would be surprised if it was even measurable in whole milligrams.
Well if it was measurable in mg, that would be super bad, since oral estrogen doses for trans women are like 2-4 mg per day. For it to be consumed by men regularly with no feminizing effects, I think it would need to be at least in the picograms/gallon range.
... but then again, i'm not a doctor. I could be wrong about that.
Edit: Turns out it's more than I was expecting. Maybe if you are taking an anti-androgen you might get a noticeable amount of E in your system if you drink multiple liters of milk per day? Not that i'd recommend it, but it is interesting.
The reference levels of estrodial for males is 10-50 pg/mL.
4mg daily of oral estrodial got me from (presumably) that range to around 95 pg/mL. Let's round this to an estimate of a 50 pg/mL, or an increase of 12.5 pg/mL per mg of oral estrodial.
A gallon of milk, would have 0.000492mg of estrodial, which would translate to a 0.00615 pg/mL increase. That is about 0.0015% the reference range for cis men.
Interestingly, high testosterone levels actually increase men's estrogen levels, as testosterone gets metabolized into estrogen.
They'd need to drink more milk than humanly possible. If there was some way to drink extreme quantities of milk every day without dying it could be done.
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SeductiveTortoise@piefed.social · 48 pts · 135d
starts sniffing in the weirdest way possible
Love Nile, no matter what color.
atopi@piefed.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 135d
even the green one?
Denvil@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 135d
Even the pink one?
SujiIsOkay@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 35 pts · 135d
"She kept claiming to be a puppy" I see no issues
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 135d
I would still be upset if she took a human-sized piss on the carpet. Like, no amount of rubbing her nose in it is going to undo that kind of damage.
GalacticSushi@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 135d
The quality was greatly improved
socsa@piefed.social · 28 pts · 135d
I guess... All that's left now is to...
taste it...
rtxn@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 135d
NilePink: Making my own estradiol from dairy products
(According to one random comment under hbomberguy's soy diet video, milk is full of mammalian sex hormones. I'm certain Nigel would be able to separate them, if that is true.)
heliotrope@retrofed.com · 7 pts · 135d
Nile should totally try this. For science.
(Kinda joking, but I would also honsetly find this really interesting)
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 135d
Probably not true, since plenty of cis men drink milk and don't transition
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 135d
I wouldn't be surprised if there is some, but I bet an entire gallon of hormone laden milk has less estrogen than the average trans person takes on the daily.
I would be surprised if it was even measurable in whole milligrams.
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 135d
Well if it was measurable in mg, that would be super bad, since oral estrogen doses for trans women are like 2-4 mg per day. For it to be consumed by men regularly with no feminizing effects, I think it would need to be at least in the picograms/gallon range.
... but then again, i'm not a doctor. I could be wrong about that.
Edit: Turns out it's more than I was expecting. Maybe if you are taking an anti-androgen you might get a noticeable amount of E in your system if you drink multiple liters of milk per day? Not that i'd recommend it, but it is interesting.
homura1650@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 134d
The reference levels of estrodial for males is 10-50 pg/mL.
4mg daily of oral estrodial got me from (presumably) that range to around 95 pg/mL. Let's round this to an estimate of a 50 pg/mL, or an increase of 12.5 pg/mL per mg of oral estrodial.
A gallon of milk, would have 0.000492mg of estrodial, which would translate to a 0.00615 pg/mL increase. That is about 0.0015% the reference range for cis men.
Interestingly, high testosterone levels actually increase men's estrogen levels, as testosterone gets metabolized into estrogen.
https://emedicine.medscape.com/article/2089003-overview?form=fpf#a1
Lumelore@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 135d
They'd need to drink more milk than humanly possible. If there was some way to drink extreme quantities of milk every day without dying it could be done.
Estrogen Table (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T2/)
Estrogen Table 2 (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T3/)
Pregnant Cow Milk E Levels (pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4524299/table/T4/)
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 135d
That's more than I was expecting.
Now I need someone to fortify my oatmilk with estrogen so I'm not missing this essential nutrient
bizarroland@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d
I imagine you could crush up your tit tacs and sprinkle them in
SuperNovaStar@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 2 pts · 134d
I don't have any ðŸ˜
(Not actually that sad about it, injections are just better, but still)
ThatWeirdGuy1001@lemmy.world · 18 pts · 135d
Atlusb@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 134d
🤬
WoodScientist@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 134d
Atlusb@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 134d
🥲
dandelion@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 17 pts · 135d
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1B3Xi5L6siI
in case anyone else is not familiar with NileRed ^
WolfLink@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 135d
NileRed is basically an actually skilled scientist trying to do alchemy with the vibes of a high school student.
JackbyDev@programming.dev · 5 pts · 134d
I always associate him with "However,"
thiscat@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 132d
is that a bible reference