“Effective immediately, the United States Navy, the Finest in the World, will begin the process of BLOCKADING any and all Ships trying to enter, or leave, the Strait of Hormuz”
https://www.lemonde.fr/en/international/article/2026/04/12/trump-says-us-to-soon-begin-naval-blockade-of-strait-of-hormuz_6752339_4.html
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stumu415@lemmy.zip · 50 pts · 142d
What? So the US is going to block the straight that is already blocked by Iran, whilst the negotiation are going on to force Iran to open the straight?
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 45 pts · 142d
He's mad they let China thru...
So he's going to say he's stopping everything, but the only way things get to him to stop, is if Iran let it pass.
He doesn't understand that when Iran lets someone thru, it's Iran allowing them to be neutral.
trump sees it as them being allies of Iran and his enemies. Which makes them "valid targets" in his eyes.
Now we just have to see if he'll really sink/seize a 3rd party tanker if it just goes thru anyways.
If he does, that's pretty much ww3
TRBoom@lemmy.zip · 5 pts · 142d
I think he wants a toll too. He’s just jealous of the money.
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 141d
Probably. He is also days behind some facts because he doesn't actually care about nuance of the war and would rather do or watch his media circle jerks.
anomnom@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 141d
Isn’t this just another of the weekly pump and dumps. Gotta drop the market values so his buddies can buy another Monday morning dip.
jtrek@startrek.website · 4 pts · 141d
So I don't want to like die in nuclear fire but if a foreign power toppled the US government and tried+convicted all the Republicans of crimes against humanity, that doesn't sound so bad.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 141d
That depends on what they replace them with.
Things can always get worse.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 141d
"With us or against us." Heard that one before.
Barley_Man@sopuli.xyz · 15 pts · 142d
Before this the only ships let through were the ones that were OKed by iran. You could be OKed by iran either if you were going there to buy and transport Iranian oil or if you paid Iran a huge fee. Either way Iran was making huge amounts of money on this especially since the oil prices were so high and they were the only ones able to export oil from the region.
So this recent move of blocking the straight completely is not a dumb move if one wants to weaken iran. There were headlines going around saying Iran was making more money during the war than before the war. Such a situation of course meant iran is in no hurry whatsoever to sign a peace deal with the US, especially not a disadvantageous one.
This new blockade will however highen oil prices even more now that not even Iranian oil can leave. But this will put pressure on Iran towards making peace deal. If a peace deal is met the strait can be completely open again and oil prices can start going down. That's the thought behind it. We'll see if it actually works. It doesn't look like Iran is too desperate to sign a peace deal and why would they? They can probably handle not exporting oil for a longer time than Trump can politically survive constantly increasing fuel prices and inflation. And they know that fact. The Iranian leadership are crazy religious fanatics but they don't strike me as stupid.
Mihies@programming.dev · 5 pts · 142d
It's also a state piracy which will not go well with China and others. Europe will stay silent, though, I guess.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 142d
Even if they were completely devoted to their flavor of Abrhamic religion...
Ironically enough their prophecy requires Muslims and Christians to unite against the antichrist, and then Jesus (yes that Jesus) comes down and kills the antichrist and tells everyone to convert to Islam.
Then there's a schism where Christians say Jesus saved everyone, and Muslims say that it was really God acting thru Jesus just like last time.
Like, that's the most ridiculous part of it, that there's still supposed to be beef after they both unite under Jesus against the antichrist.
And it's why I fully have them cozying up to the fucking pope on my bingo card as my center square. Especially since their timeline has always been "over 2,000 years later". They haven't been kicking the can for centuries, this is when they always said it would happen.
If they want to bring about their end times, they're gonna build a global multi-cultural opposition group to trump, because he clearly fits all the predictions for the anti-christ.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jesus_in_Islam#Apocalyptic_literature
But at least theirs has a goal of peace on Earth instead of hell on Earth:
marcos@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 141d
Funny how the religion of the Trump's supporters claim almost the same thing, but explicitly single out everybody turning against Jews, and of course Jesus is on their side.
givesomefucks@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
Almost like every new version blames the last...
Madison420@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 142d
They want in on irans toll system because it'll be hugely profitable.
EvergreenGuru@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 142d
Iran doesn’t have a toll. They just won’t allow enemy ships through.
Madison420@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 142d
They're asking for a toll and the US said it wanted to take part in the system ie. They want half and partial control.
Eldritch@piefed.world · 2 pts · 142d
They want one though. And that's enough to get Donny dementia interested.
phutatorius@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 141d
Yeah, he thinks he's entitled to wet his beak.
ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 142d
Big "you can't quit, your fired!" energy.
magnue@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 142d
Basically the only thing worse than Iran not opening the straight, is Iran only letting through Chinese vessels and taking a payment for it.
Edit: sorry for being factual I guess.
Mynameisallen@lemmy.zip · 42 pts · 142d
"I didn't wanna fuck her anyways"
stumu415@lemmy.zip · 26 pts · 142d
bamboo@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 142d
that's why I'm so fucking confused
Quilotoa@lemmy.ca · 23 pts · 142d
So, when the first Chinese ship goes through, what will they do? Attacking it will bring in a whole new issue. And won't this free up Iranian forces to fight elsewhere?
OrteilGenou@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 141d
By then they'll have sold the stocks they bought last week and on to the next "announcement"
Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 141d
That's really the only context some of this makes sense from. Each Sunday night/Monday morning it's a waiting game of what weird surprise will Trump pull out of his hat to give the market an excuse to pump.
MadMadBunny@lemmy.ca · 19 pts · 142d
He declared that during the weekend, while markets are closed, so that he can profit from it with another crazy declaration on Monday morning.
This is merely pure market manipulation.
Catma@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
No they will wait til Friday morning, and declare the blockade over. Most people are dumb so they will believe the strait is open and market goes brrrr. Only it will be the US blockade and the strait will likely remain closed.
anon_8675309@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 141d
Lmao. Iran got Trump to block it FOR them.
Trump is as dumb as a box of rocks.
1D10@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 141d
I dunno I've seen some bright rocks.
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 15 pts · 142d
Anyone still believe he's playing 4D chess?
Deestan@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 142d
And if he is: Does he know? Is he moving his GI Joe figurine forward on the chessboard and going pew pew while being outmaneuvered in 3 dimensions?
Eldritch@piefed.world · 4 pts · 142d
4D tiddlywinks and he's still on zeroies.
Gates9@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 142d
I always got the impression that MAGA always knew their ideology was on the way out, and that Trump represents the last existential battle, like “Custers last stand”. It’s apocalyptic, and so they are in favor of burning the house down if they lose.
SreudianFlip@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 142d
With water boats!!
JeeBaiChow@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 142d
Welp, all hail our chinese EV lords!
Treczoks@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 141d
So either he plans to make more money from manipulating the markets. Or he is just following Putins commands to keep the oil price up.
Michal@programming.dev · 1 pts · 141d
The article said they plan to block Iranian ports, not the Strait.
Typotyper@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 141d
Think for a second. When he ramps things up by blocking just Iranian oil tankers won't Iran retaliate.
Also if you read the article he says he will stop any ship that has paid Iran's toll. He goes on further to threaten China with 50% tariffs.
GlassHalfHopeful@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 142d
🤣
HubertManne@piefed.social · 1 pts · 141d
bought time all those countries using the strait opened it up.
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · -17 pts · 142d
Finally doing what they should have done day one.
marxismtomorrow@lemmy.today · 12 pts · 142d
webp@mander.xyz · 2 pts · 141d
We dream big. 😔