I mean, they were likely oral tradition before being written down, and we don't know many details about Homer. For all we know it was originally made by women, or maybe Homer was actually an enby.
A trans person is someone whose gender identity differs from the one they were assigned at birth. A non-binary person is someone with a gender identity that falls outside of just 'man' or 'woman'. So enbies are trans, but not all trans people are enbies.
And enbies and binary trans people tend to have a lot of similar experiences with transitioning.
disclaimer: not a historian, have looked into this a bit a while ago but might be wildly off base here
not in the definition that we use today afaik, but they also didn't have the same concepts of gender. there are multiple mentions of half men/half women, but those are mostly intersex people(like hermauhrodites for example). there's also a lot of GNC people, but it's hard to tell whether anyone was enby or if it made sense in the social context to be enby.
I think the joke here is that Marge Simpson is Homer Simpson's wife. i.e. the joke is that the OP is confusing Homer Simpson with Homer (author of the Odyssey).
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TotallynotJessica@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 42 pts · 125d
I mean, they were likely oral tradition before being written down, and we don't know many details about Homer. For all we know it was originally made by women, or maybe Homer was actually an enby.
SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 43 pts · 125d
"Hmm hmm heh. She said oral. Whoa, Homer was a chick, that rules."
Soulg@ani.social · 8 pts · 125d
Do we know if any examples of enbys that far back?
belluck@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 20 pts · 125d
The cult of Inanna/Ishtar in ancient Mesopotamia was known for being gender-nonconforming, and Ovid’s metamorphosis contains multiple trans characters
Soulg@ani.social · 3 pts · 124d
Interesting cult! I thought enby and trans were very different?
rat@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 124d
A trans person is someone whose gender identity differs from the one they were assigned at birth. A non-binary person is someone with a gender identity that falls outside of just 'man' or 'woman'. So enbies are trans, but not all trans people are enbies.
And enbies and binary trans people tend to have a lot of similar experiences with transitioning.
anise@quokk.au · 8 pts · 125d
disclaimer: not a historian, have looked into this a bit a while ago but might be wildly off base here
not in the definition that we use today afaik, but they also didn't have the same concepts of gender. there are multiple mentions of half men/half women, but those are mostly intersex people(like hermauhrodites for example). there's also a lot of GNC people, but it's hard to tell whether anyone was enby or if it made sense in the social context to be enby.
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 2 pts · 124d
Wouldn't Eunich technically fall into this category?
tb_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 122d
I was also reminded of eunuchs. Those were also seen as a "third gender" by some?
Not sure if it's exactly NB, but their history goes back a long way.
Tikiporch@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 125d
Also, did Bart or Maggie have any hand in it's creation?
Aqarius@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 124d
I mean, the literal opening line is "Rage, goddess, sing to me".
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 125d
Help i don't get it, i have read the oddyssey btw i just don't get the other tropes
snowsuit2654@piefed.blahaj.zone · 22 pts · 124d
I think the joke here is that Marge Simpson is Homer Simpson's wife. i.e. the joke is that the OP is confusing Homer Simpson with Homer (author of the Odyssey).
tutter@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 123d
Ah damn its just a Homer joke i way overthunk that
NigelFrobisher@aussie.zone · 1 pts · 123d
In the original Nipponese?