Declare AIPAC a foreign agent just like their predecessor, then arrest and imprison all of their employees for aiding and abetting a terrorist organization.
Better yet, and this really should be a main priority at the tipidy-top of the progressive to-do list: overturn citizen united and get dark money out of the political system.
they did not have the right to violate international law and wage an all-out war of enormous destruction against the entire Palestinian people – in what experts have correctly concluded is a genocide.
This should have been the opening. Bernie shouldn't have to spend 3 paragraphs proving his bona fides; preemptively defend vacuous accusations of bigotry; and acknowledge that Hamas are assholes, just to begin to list Israel's crimes.
After that opening, Bernie really cooks. I just feel like preemptive apologetics cedes too much ground to bad-faith actors.
It's to get people like you to be genocide apologists. "Well, Hamas burned down the Reichstag building. What was Israel supposed to do?" To make people sympathetic. Unless Bernie comes out and condemns the IDF for the Hannibal Directive(which will at the very least cause his wife, and love of his life, to be imprisoned), nothing will come of it.
I'd have to get back to you on that one when I feel like looking up the specifics. But it is in relation to a real example, or at least why people assume he changed his mind on something. Think the IRS threatened his wife over something, unless Bernie changed his mind(votes or words). Maybe someone can chima in to what it was that remembers the specifics :/
I mean best people who are also politicians. Arguably Trump is the best politician, because despite openly being an absolute trainwreck of a human being he somehow has had power twice.
Yeah, “best politician” isn’t really a compliment. The best ones are good liars who commit egregious acts while retaining a base that still worships them. Trump is formidable in that respect, though I think Obama is better. Obama did a lot of shitty things and is still widely adored, whereas most of the population will readily admit Trump is a piece of shit.
Good to start with no aid, then we need to bomb the shit out of them until they agree to stop murdering and oppressing innocents. The world doesnt like nazis.
That will never happen. Never ever. It seams that people forget that there was "before Trump" time. It didn't matter whether a Democrat or Republican was in power, Americans came together when needed to bomb everyone they like, arm Israel to commit genocide, interfered in the elections of many countries.
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Carmakazi@piefed.social · 117 pts · 123d
Declare AIPAC a foreign agent just like their predecessor, then arrest and imprison all of their employees for aiding and abetting a terrorist organization.
in_my_honest_opinion@piefed.social · 32 pts · 123d
Yes, and, we need to cut their funding first. This would go a long way to do that.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 123d
Same with cpac, turning point usa and the heritage foundation.
Cpac openly said that all of their members were domestic terrorists
Linken@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 123d
Everyone that took their money has blood on their hands.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 123d
We can seize all their assets and let them keep their hands
DaGreenGobbo@feddit.uk · 1 pts · 122d
Pfft, who wants bloody hands?
Earthman_Jim@lemmy.zip · 6 pts · 122d
Better yet, and this really should be a main priority at the tipidy-top of the progressive to-do list: overturn citizen united and get dark money out of the political system.
Lodespawn@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 123d
Yeah I'm sure the government they installed will get right on that ..
yesman@lemmy.world · 64 pts · 123d
This should have been the opening. Bernie shouldn't have to spend 3 paragraphs proving his bona fides; preemptively defend vacuous accusations of bigotry; and acknowledge that Hamas are assholes, just to begin to list Israel's crimes.
After that opening, Bernie really cooks. I just feel like preemptive apologetics cedes too much ground to bad-faith actors.
sepi@piefed.social · 7 pts · 123d
He can write it however he wants. You can write your own version that skips whatever you don't like.
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · -2 pts · 123d
It's to get people like you to be genocide apologists. "Well, Hamas burned down the Reichstag building. What was Israel supposed to do?" To make people sympathetic. Unless Bernie comes out and condemns the IDF for the Hannibal Directive(which will at the very least cause his wife, and love of his life, to be imprisoned), nothing will come of it.
JimmyMcGill@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d
Can you explain that look last bit to someone who isn’t aware of it?
DaMummy@hilariouschaos.com · -1 pts · 123d
I'd have to get back to you on that one when I feel like looking up the specifics. But it is in relation to a real example, or at least why people assume he changed his mind on something. Think the IRS threatened his wife over something, unless Bernie changed his mind(votes or words). Maybe someone can chima in to what it was that remembers the specifics :/
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 25 pts · 123d
They don't and won't listen to him.
Flatworm7591@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 33 pts · 123d
I know, but it's still notable a US Senator has come out and clearly articulated the argument, so credit where it's due.
Fishnoodle@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 123d
Jimmy Carter and Bernie Sanders are the best politicians the us has produced in the last century
discocactus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d
I mean best people who are also politicians. Arguably Trump is the best politician, because despite openly being an absolute trainwreck of a human being he somehow has had power twice.
melfie@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 122d
Yeah, “best politician” isn’t really a compliment. The best ones are good liars who commit egregious acts while retaining a base that still worships them. Trump is formidable in that respect, though I think Obama is better. Obama did a lot of shitty things and is still widely adored, whereas most of the population will readily admit Trump is a piece of shit.
Jaegeras@piefed.social · 1 pts · 122d
Jaegeras@piefed.social · 1 pts · 122d
Babalugats@feddit.uk · 8 pts · 123d
I didn't mean to take anything away from him. it's just frustrating when the ignorant clowns are in charge.
markko@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 123d
While he deserves credit for finally coming out with it, it is incredibly frustrating that it took him this long.
bulwark@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 123d
At least we'll get something on the record to show which Zionist representatives are willing to say no.
desmosthenes@lemmy.world · 24 pts · 123d
that man was the president we needed
Crackhappy@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 123d
I have voted in every election for decades. The only one where I actually caucused and actively promoted was in 2016. For him.
GuyIncognito@lemmy.ca · 14 pts · 123d
took him long enough
mattyroses@lemmy.today · 7 pts · 123d
Better late than never, but yeah
kreskin@lemmy.world · 9 pts · 123d
Good to start with no aid, then we need to bomb the shit out of them until they agree to stop murdering and oppressing innocents. The world doesnt like nazis.
theacharnian@lemmy.ca · 5 pts · 122d
I'm pretty sure the guy in the photo is Netanyahu, not Sanders. /s
itisileclerk@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 122d
That will never happen. Never ever. It seams that people forget that there was "before Trump" time. It didn't matter whether a Democrat or Republican was in power, Americans came together when needed to bomb everyone they like, arm Israel to commit genocide, interfered in the elections of many countries.
Rentlar@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 122d
Never say never, 40-some Dems voted to block, what could that number be following midterm Senate elections?
Cactopuses@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 123d
Ìod
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 122d
Like the no war? USA lies like always.
Karmanopoly@lemmy.world · -14 pts · 122d
Ok sure old man ...let's get you back in bed
Solrac@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 122d
If you don't like it, you can go back to sleep, but those of who are up and awake, we got work to do.