I have to wonder if anyone involved in that album - the producer, the audio engineer, the kid who changes the guitar strings - anyone - thought to stop her and say, “Hey, this is the incorrect use of the word, you’re setting yourself up for decades of ridicule.” Like, did they not know either? Were they all afraid of her?
Though…the meta aspect of this is that a song called “Ironic” that misuses the word is actually…kinda ironic. Maybe that was the real artistry at work and we all just missed it. 🤷🏻
"Though…the meta aspect of this is that a song called “Ironic” that misuses the word is actually…kinda ironic. Maybe that was the real artistry at work and we all just missed it. 🤷🏻"
Pretty sure this was intentional. A song named Ironic that doesn't have any actual examples of irony is in itself ironic. That's the joke.
More simply put, it came to acquire the general definition, "the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect".
It's like rain on your wedding day.
It's a free ride when you've already paid
Well, life has a funny way of sneaking up on you
When you think everything's okay and everything's going right
And life has a funny way of helping you out
When you think everything's gone wrong and everything blows up in your face
may it be that it's not the described situations that are ironic but life itself ? Life is using irony to tell Alanis something
From what she's said, that song was never meant to make it on the album. It was more of a recording exercise meant to loosen up the band and give them a low-stakes taste of a professional session. The lyrics themselves were written as a joke: a bunch of stupid scenarios that they'd then incorrectly brush off as ironic to make themselves laugh.
Everyone you're saying should have warned her actually begged her to include the song on Jagged Little Pill. She said that she pushed back, but ultimately wasn't that precious about the song, since she figured it wouldn't be popular since she didn't take it seriously.
The fact you typed all this out without recognizing that Jagged Little Pill is probably one of the most iconic Canadian music albums of the entire 90s is pretty fascinating.
Like.... Tell me how little you know about the significance of it..
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gigastasio@sh.itjust.works · 26 pts · 142d
I have to wonder if anyone involved in that album - the producer, the audio engineer, the kid who changes the guitar strings - anyone - thought to stop her and say, “Hey, this is the incorrect use of the word, you’re setting yourself up for decades of ridicule.” Like, did they not know either? Were they all afraid of her?
Though…the meta aspect of this is that a song called “Ironic” that misuses the word is actually…kinda ironic. Maybe that was the real artistry at work and we all just missed it. 🤷🏻
chiliedogg@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 142d
That song taught me that no matter what you're describing, if you call something "ironic" somebody will correct you.
moody@lemmings.world · 13 pts · 142d
Ironic, isn't it?
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 142d
Like the Tragedy of Darth Plagius the Wise?
GiveOver@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 142d
No
Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world · 16 pts · 142d
I bet if They Might Be Giants wrote the song more people would get the joke.
its_kim_love@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 6 pts · 142d
All these years later they're still missing the joke, but they're still talking about it. That's some kind of consolation prize.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 142d
"Though…the meta aspect of this is that a song called “Ironic” that misuses the word is actually…kinda ironic. Maybe that was the real artistry at work and we all just missed it. 🤷🏻"
Pretty sure this was intentional. A song named Ironic that doesn't have any actual examples of irony is in itself ironic. That's the joke.
merde@sh.itjust.works · 9 pts · 142d
may it be that it's not the described situations that are ironic but life itself ? Life is using irony to tell Alanis something
aeronmelon@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 142d
A barely recognized singer songwriter that was a wafer-thin smoker whose hair represented 30% of her body weight?
I’d be afraid I’d knock her over if I talked too loud.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 1 pts · 141d
Barely recognized? Didn't this album go like multi platinum?
slampisko@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 142d
Regardless, we are still generating buzz about the song decades later, so the decision has worked at some level
samus12345@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 141d
That's what I choose to believe. It's ironic that "Ironic" contains no actual irony.
fartographer@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 141d
From what she's said, that song was never meant to make it on the album. It was more of a recording exercise meant to loosen up the band and give them a low-stakes taste of a professional session. The lyrics themselves were written as a joke: a bunch of stupid scenarios that they'd then incorrectly brush off as ironic to make themselves laugh.
Everyone you're saying should have warned her actually begged her to include the song on Jagged Little Pill. She said that she pushed back, but ultimately wasn't that precious about the song, since she figured it wouldn't be popular since she didn't take it seriously.
mimavox@piefed.social · 2 pts · 142d
Haha, yes this has been nagging me since the release. Still a good song, though.
PhoenixDog@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
The fact you typed all this out without recognizing that Jagged Little Pill is probably one of the most iconic Canadian music albums of the entire 90s is pretty fascinating.
Like.... Tell me how little you know about the significance of it..
wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 142d
Even more iconic than Robin Sparkles?
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 2 pts · 141d
Wasn't it the best selling album from a female artist in the world for a bit?
HotsauceHurricane@lemmy.world · 14 pts · 142d
ITS LIKE SPOOOOOONS IN MY POKING HAND
r00ty@kbin.life · 10 pts · 142d
Strawberry jam, when you want marmalade.
lobut@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 142d
ITS LIKE FREE WEEEEEED! WHEN I'M ALREADY BAKED!
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 142d
ITS A FLEEEEECE TIDE, WHEN YOURE ALREADY PATE
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 142d
She needs to be asking for the definition of coincidence.
edgemaster72@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 142d
zero_spelled_with_an_ecks@programming.dev · 4 pts · 142d
Is it ironic if the audience knows it's not but the people they're talking about don't know?
humble_boatsman@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 142d
The plumbers lament.
MIDItheKID@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
I don't think the examples in the song are even a coincidence. Just unfortunate. Like... Rain on your wedding day?
lobut@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 142d
Ed Byrne has a whole bit about it: https://youtu.be/nT1TVSTkAXg
Rhoeri@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 142d
Rain on a wedding day would be a coincidence.
wk5ar@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 142d
he won the lottery and died in sleep paralisys the next day. isnt that ironic allanis asked...