Looks like there's a mod going rogue on the announcements comm.
Serious is removing and banning anyone pointing out how terrible of a move defedederating from db0 and AN would be, or anyone pointing out his removals. Calling them disinformation comments then banning them for same reason.
Unless this is expected behavior where anything that a mod doesn't like becomes disinformation?
Edit 18hrs after post.
No answers so again apparently this is accepted behavior. Sadly not shocked
Edit 2, 2days later.
Still nothing but insults from a head lemmy world mod. Really great look for lemmy world
Edit 3, 10 days later.
Mod in question retaliated by banning me instance wide for reporting tos breaking comments, and then apologizing to said account here.
@ruud@lemmy.world @MrKaplan@lemmy.world @lwadmin@lemmy.world
Is this acceptable behavior for mods in your opinion? Retaliation and attacking users reporting rule breaking comments?
37 Comments
Vicinus@piefed.zip · 11 pts · 102d
I believe you are saying user "Serinus". Autocorrect changed mine too.
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 4 pts · 101d
If they're not going to respect users 🤷
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 101d
They respect Zionists and bigots, they don't respect international law and people wanting to end genocide.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 101d
By the way, .world is fully on board with the removals. They're not going to risk losing they sweet sweet genocidal money.
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 101d
I wish some people calling themselves "antizionist" actually listened to the zionists on what zionism means:
https://sh.itjust.works/comment/24970387
So yeah, if you don't chant "death to israel" you're a zionist, the zionists agree with us on this.
Also that racist zionist is still allowed to spread their hasbara in a thread that is heavily moderated. lemmy.flatworld is not beating the zionist accusations.
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 7 pts · 100d
Also very telling that the comment hasn't been removed or that account banned for all the actual misinformation and TOS breaking comments.
But 🤷
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 6 pts · 99d
And Serinus has banned you for "abusing reports" for reporting people advocating for the removal and murder of Arabs.
I'm sure others here will be banned for reporting hate speech, because God forbid the actual TOS violations won't be punished because they work for the team.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 99d
The .world TOS says you can call for the genoical removal of Chinese, Russians, and and any Arabs. That's just what war is.
If you say that you don't support illegal wars and war crimes, you get purged.
This is what Flat.World wants.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 2 pts · 99d
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 100d
It's really amazing how we can directly quote them, use their words unedited, while they do the things we say they do, and people will go "you guys are crazy, only rabid antizionists could see this. Zionists are only the people you disagree with."
Yes, I was told that. Several times by several people. I wonder what hate group they learned that from.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 99d
Herzel is mentionned as the spiritual father of Israel in israel's "declaration of independence". Herzl talked about displacing arabs and never let them back.
Herzl’s Diary, 12 June 1895
Now in practice. The creation of israel couldn't happen without ethenic cleansing because jews only had 9% of the land and the lands was dispersed.
Zionism is a supermasist ideology that believe jews no matter if their most direct ancestors has more right ro the land than the local people that include muslims and christians.
Saying that israel can only be a jewish state is dangerous. It would mean of arabs ever outpace jews in population they would have to remove them too. Many israeli think the arab population is a long term threat
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 99d
Yeah the core of the zionist belief can be read in the bible (emphasis me), from Numbers 33
So when people talk about "islamists" or "religious fanatics" this is what the christian and jewish zionists hold up as their gods command, and their god is threatening to do to them what they are doing to the palestinians if they do not kill every single one.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 99d
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 100d
At this stage, after multiple notifications to the LW Admin team both here on their own communities and in private messages to Kaplan from me, it's clear that Serinus' behavior is not only acceptable but actively condoned and approved. Which really stands out to me when he's saying stuff like this:
Due to nothing happening with Serinus, there is no other way to take this other than the accepted position of the LW Administration team. Which means that the LW Admin team is not just approving of bullying instances based on usercount, but is now actively partaking in it. My question is where is the line?
How many users does it take for LW Admins to consider an instance valid?
That's not even considering the fact that he removed comments for 'misinformation' that had screenshots to prove they were accurate. So not only are the LW admins condonining bullying of instances based off of usercount, but they're now also partaking in misinformation and suppression of proof.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 99d
How long until Serinus removes this one too?
Serinus@lemmy.world · -8 pts · 102d
So nobody is left making that point in the thread?
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 101d
Barely after you removed comments that proved the admin team wrong, you didn't need to ban Stamets for providing genuine links as "misinfo" but then leave up actual misinfo from people because it feels right.
maam@feddit.uk · 7 pts · 101d
They left zionist propaganda up too 🤮
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 101d
You mean to tell me the zionist mod team removed voices saying murder is bad but left up racist comments and Zionist talking points? Crazy.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 101d
And congrats to making .world lose even more supporters, you made a well liked mod leave the job and abandon ship.
Do better. You won't because you're paid not to, but you should.
maam@feddit.uk · 4 pts · 101d
Keep killing world, you're doing a great job at that buddy.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 101d
If they keep going like this, it's just more fuel for the fire. I'm making sure to screenshot and use the Internet archive everything, when I can.
Because Serinus loves to purge anything they disagree with, even the objectively true "we shouldn't support murder".
Serinus@lemmy.world MOD · -8 pts · 101d
For anyone interested in this, I'd encourage you to look for the facts, and not just go by what feels to be the prevailing opinion.
The "prevailing opinion" is easy to manipulate, and it's an easy way to manipulate us. They're effective at generating a certain vibe to establish their desired narrative.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 8 pts · 101d
Projection, holy shit. You literally removed comments to manipulate the topic. Kaplan dodges and changes questions to avoid answering topics. .world literally takes weeks to pretend it's now really the last time JordanLund will be punished for supporting racist ideas and censoring topics he doesn't like.
I have to wonder if you actually think you're the good guy in this entire situation, removing posts documenting bad faith by your team while leaving up actual hate speech and misinformation or Kaplan is paying you more to do this every day.
No wonder you wanted to support the flat world movement, you hate facts that counter your reality.
pinto@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 99d
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 98d
Pussy mod removal.
Serinus@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 99d
Nah, there are bans too.
Serinus@lemmy.world MOD · -5 pts · 99d
After a few days I'm starting to ban more, including this one of 15+ reports for abusing reports.
I make a point to allow opinions I disagree with, to an extent. I'm not going to allow hexbear style harassment and bullying.
Sorry you have to deal with this, @Samskara@sh.itjust.works
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 99d
The zionist crybullying really is what ties this all together. That user explicitly supports "a state, where they are the majority", aka an ethnostate. One where jews have extra privileges, one where, if the arab population became too big, they would have to do ethnic cleansing. Like they are doing in palestine and lebanon right now! This user talks about "israel proper, the west bank and gaza" aka they don't recognize any land as palestinian, they want it all. They aren't even coy about their expansionist settler fantasy, this person does not just get platformed but coddled and protected.
Samskara@sh.itjust.works · -1 pts · 98d
Lots of states with an ethnic majority exist in Europe, the Middle East, and Asia. People have a right to self determination. Denying Israel this very right to exist with a Jewish majority, while simultaneously demanding a Palestine with Arab majority is a double standard.
The expulsion of Shia in southern Lebanon is a war crime and I’m against it. I use West Bank and Gaza to refer to territory explicitly. Palestine can refer to different territories, including the Kingdom of Jordan. I support the establishment of a Palestinian state in Gaza and the West Bank.
Serinus@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 99d
The comment in the screenshot is the opposite of that? They explicitly said they don't support what's happening in the West Bank or Gaza.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 9 pts · 98d
He said that most palestinians left by their own and not forced by isrsel destroying hundred of villages. He is using hamas and hizbollah as an excuse to justify iarael starting the war knowing very well israel's ideology of ethenic cleansing.
Shameful to defend those type of people
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 99d
Right, I wasn't talking about that comment. There are the liberal zionists and the honest zionists but you can see past the mask when they use their dog whistles like "Israel proper": What other "Israel" is there? Well, the yet-unsettled "Israel" of course. South lebanon, gaza, west bank. "From the river to the sea" is actually also used by the zionists ^[see: https://jewishvirtuallibrary.org/original-party-platform-of-the-likud-party] and the call "palestine will be free" is the counter to that. So when they say that it's call to genocide, they mean that because that's how they use it. But it's not true when we use it.
And you can clearly see the many many hasbara talking points, which I don't care to debunk one-by-one. If you actually want to learn more yourself you can look any of these up on websites like palestineremembered.com, since a lot of it is downplaying the nakba https://www.palestineremembered.com/WhatIsNakba.html is a good place to start I think. There is also https://decolonizepalestine.com/ which is a lot less dense in historical detail if you're looking for a general overview. I'm sure there are other great websites, these two are my go-to if someone is spreading lies and I have the time and energy to debunk them.
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 98d
Of course when you show them evidence lemmy mod start ignoring you
mathemachristian@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 98d
I mean I haven't shown them the evidence directly so they'll just handwave it away, since we are bound by the Rules of Proper Debate to prove every little thing in excruciating detail before any action is contemplated while they can just run roughshod with the mod tools when it suits them. It's unlikely that a call to genocide palestinians will receive mod action as long as there is even the tiniest shred of plausible deniability.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 97d
Several days now and still ignored. Serinus only reads what agrees with them.
eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 98d
I bet by the end of the week this comment will be removed by Serinus for "misinfo" because it brings too much evidence.
Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 7 pts · 99d
That user was banned from the instance, not from the community. You just admitted to banning them. So you just admitted to having admin level tools without having any of the accountability of an admin level account.
Lemmy.world admins cannot be trusted if they're giving you access to that discord bot after you say stuff like this:
mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 5 pts · 99d
Denying the nekba is an opinion? What next you would allow Holocust deniers?