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A better world requires great cities, communities, streets and places, and the path to get there starts with the truth.
They spelled "Open" wrong
From the folks at https://www.urbantruthcollective.com/
A better world requires great cities, communities, streets and places, and the path to get there starts with the truth.
27 Comments
NickwithaC@lemmy.world · 103 pts · 125d
No, the road is closed. It's the street that's open.
Humanius@lemmy.world · 56 pts · 125d
Perhaps using a different sign would leave a less negative impression
Instead of saying the road is closed to cars, you say the street is open only to pedestrians.
The picture is seemingly from North America, so I'm not sure if a similar sign exists over there.
Scrollone@feddit.it · 13 pts · 124d
Real life examples from Europe, where a "closed" road is showed as a positive message.
Italy:
Denmark:
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 11 pts · 125d
If I were driving I would take this to mean crosswalk or watch for kids due to having seen similar signs.
I think it would be great to gain a new meaning however when posted in the middle of the road.
Humanius@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 125d
The sign I posted follows the 1967 Vienna Convention on road signs.
Afaik the US is not signatory to that treaty, but they probably have different signs with similar meaning
Perhaps something like this, based on the US bike lane sign?
Tlaloc_Temporal@lemmy.ca · 7 pts · 125d
Unfortunately, that's limited to a single language, not international friendly. Having language at all makes it take longer to process too, but that's not as much of an issue in this case.
Humanius@lemmy.world · 13 pts · 125d
That seems to be the standard in the US though. I'm only following what they already do over there.
Cethin@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 124d
Sadly, I don't think you can have a wordless sign here that isn't negative. The option is a "no cars" symbol. I don't know how you'd do "pedestrians only" symbolicly.
bob_lemon@feddit.org · 5 pts · 124d
Literally the image at the top of this comment chain?
Circular white on blue signs are "order" signs. Whatever they don't show is implicitly forbidden, without needing a red circle "forbiddance" sign.
Humanius@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 124d
America doesn't follow the Vienna Convention on Road Signs, so a blue circular sign would be essentially meaningless over there. People have never seen it before and won't know what it represents.
Edit: As another example, this seems to be the sign for a bikelane or bikepath in the US
Canada does seemingly have an "order" sign, but theirs is a white circle with a green border
henfredemars@infosec.pub · 2 pts · 125d
I think that’s perfect.
freeman@feddit.org · 10 pts · 125d
its round, so its obligatory, not just a warning
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 125d
Jfc I don’t think that road sign is trying to oppress anyone.
Humanius@lemmy.world · 17 pts · 125d
The road sign is technically correct, but it looks at the situation as "car by default".
It reinforces the idea that in order to accommodate pedestrian friendly places, we must punish drivers by restricting them from going where they would otherwise be allowed to go. It assumes that cars are allowed to go anywhere, unless explicitely stated otherwise.
The way you communicate ideas is important if you want to get people on board, so maybe it is better to say the road is "open to pedestrians only", rather than "closed to cars"
Soulg@ani.social · -1 pts · 124d
The road sign is indeed defaulting to cars because that's what roads are made for
Humanius@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 124d
In current-day America that is indeed the case.
This thread is arguing that maybe that should not be the case, and is proposing alternative solutions that would be less car-brained.
Such a "open to pedestrians only" sign already exists and is commonly used in Europe. Why can't such a sign exist in America?
HarneyToker@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
It’s really not that complicated. Roads are for cars in the US. We don’t want cars going through that craft fair right there, therefore the road is closed.
Etterra@discuss.online · 6 pts · 124d
No they didn't - road signs are generally for vehicles unless otherwise specified.
iglou@programming.dev · 12 pts · 124d
That's the criticism in this picture. The sign is vehicle-centric where it should be explicitely pedestrian-centric.
nek0d3r@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 124d
What do you mean, "I plowed directly into the crowd?" It's their fault for jaywalking, it said the road was open!
/s if it wasn't obvious
vantablack@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 3 pts · 124d
at first i thought this was a joke about running everyone over with a car lmao
MonkderVierte@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 124d
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 125d
You want to let cars onto the road full of people?!
lugal@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 124d
The sign is addressing cars and for cars it's closed but from a human perspective, it's open
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 124d
I know, I was just having a bit of fun with wordplay
Jarix@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 124d
Well do better next time and you won't disappoint all the people you are reply to and those who agree with them
StarvingMartist@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 124d
Make me
Hawke@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 124d
Better than “self-driving” cars.
jama211@lemmy.world · -1 pts · 124d