And remember everyone, if we ever do, there will only be a couple sacrificial lambs that just spend the last 5-15 years of their life delaying through our justice system.
The files are not important at this point. At least not in terms of what actually must be done to enact justice. Every single person with political power or influence is at fault and complacent. The entire Epstein class needs to be purged and their wealth and property seized.
There is really no justice that can be reached outside of a literal revolution.
Whenever guillotines are brought up I like to point out that ~90% of the people guillotined during the French Revolution were regular commoners. And the last guy to be guillotined was the guy who had been in charge of deciding who to guillotine next.
Having shopped for one of these repeatedly for years and years, the strongest piece of advice I've received is to make sure to not undersized it for your requirements. With chippers, its go big or don't go at all, or you WILL find yourself regretting it, having to shut down the machine to clean it or clear jams, etc. Its just not worth it to get the undersized units. If anything, go oversized for what you think your needs are going to be.
Too slow, and too expensive. And, as others pointed out, not environmentally friendly. Also, once they're dead, it's just making more mess to clean up. Also also, we miss the spectacle of the head being held up, and the potential to see the head blink or move the eyes just before death, and the noise would compete with the cheers of the crowd.
I vote for the cheap and reliable guillotine, which can be built by any handyman with a trip to a lumber yard. Line them up, read out their crimes and keep them moving. They just roll down a ramp into a mass grave, toss the head in after the body. Bury them, and build a solar farm on top.
You wouldn't use one of these, you'd use one of the municipal grade ones that can take 8" branches. Your city already has them, they're powerful, and close at hand.
I vote for a big guillotine, but instead of cutting the head off, it cuts them in half along their spine. Oh, and the blade is angled so it starts with the ass. Also, this one goes slowly instead of dropping really fast.
How is that better? I read the descriptions, and there was "only" horrible blistering and burning on affected areas and blindness for a few days.
The effects of the aforementioned drug, though:
Incapacitating effects can last anywhere from 5-10 days, sometimes manifesting as a full 3-day peak of vivid hallucinations, along with prolonged confusion, amnesia, and inhibition of speech and cognition. Some subjects exposed to the drug would not fully recover for almost 20 days. Even six months after exposure, a few subjects demonstrated significant increases in the scores on the hypochondriasis, depression, hysteria, psychasthenia, schizophrenia, and mania scales. The drug's potency caught the attention of the military, which considered weaponizing EA-3167 for topical use, potentially even through a handshake.
But has basically the same effects as bleach, which is probably easier to get.
If you want something natural and easy to get: daturas.
Datura is a genus of nine species of highly poisonous, vespertine-flowering plants belonging to the nightshade family (Solanaceae).[1] They are commonly known as thornapples or jimsonweeds, but are also known as devil's trumpets or mad apple[2] (not to be confused with angel's trumpets, which are placed in the closely related genus Brugmansia). Other English common names include moonflower, devil's weed, and hell's bells. All species of Datura are extremely poisonous and psychoactive, especially their seeds and flowers, which can cause respiratory depression, arrhythmias, fever, delirium, hallucinations, anticholinergic toxidrome, psychosis, and death, if taken internally.
Datura is considered a deliriant. Due to the potent combination of anticholinergic substances it contains, Datura intoxication typically produces the effects of anticholinergic delirium (usually involving a complete or relative inability to differentiate reality from fantasy); bizarre thoughts, hyperthermia; tachycardia; bizarre, and possibly violent behavior; dry skin; dry mouth; illusions; and severe mydriasis (dilated pupils) with resultant painful photophobia that can last several days.[42] Muscle stiffness, urinary retention, temporary paralysis, disrobing, emotional bluntness, dysphoria, and confusion are often reported, and pronounced amnesia is another commonly reported effect.[43][44] The psychoactive alkaloids scopolamine and atropine are also both known for their characteristic hyperactive effects and ability to cause stark and dream-like hallucinations.[45][46] The onset of symptoms generally occurs around 30 to 60 minutes after ingesting the herb. These symptoms generally last from 24 to 48 hours, but have been reported in some cases to last two weeks or longer.
In Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamines, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs, Freye asserts, "Few substances have received as many severely negative recreational experience reports as has Datura."
Jimsonweed is literally a super common plant, found throughout the US and worldwide, like are many other daturas as well.
We need hammurabis code really badly right now. The justice systems across the globe are just not anywhere near just. Israel and the american police forces would be a fine place to start.
The environmental impact of chipping the rotation class in severely overshadows the difference in the degree of environmental friendliness between these two options. Let's just pick whichever one is most convenient or portable at the time.
51 Comments
blarth@thelemmy.club · 56 pts · 96d
Remember everyone, we haven’t seen the unredacted Epstein files.
pennomi@lemmy.world · 30 pts · 96d
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 96d
There were terabytes of video as well, likely the most damning of all the evidence
wheezy@lemmy.ml · 18 pts · 96d
And remember everyone, if we ever do, there will only be a couple sacrificial lambs that just spend the last 5-15 years of their life delaying through our justice system.
The files are not important at this point. At least not in terms of what actually must be done to enact justice. Every single person with political power or influence is at fault and complacent. The entire Epstein class needs to be purged and their wealth and property seized.
There is really no justice that can be reached outside of a literal revolution.
cannedtuna@lemmy.world · 32 pts · 96d
PunnyName@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 96d
Tucker and Dale is a gem of a movie!
sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz · 5 pts · 96d
I wasn't interested in watching it when it came out. Then a friend of mine convinced me to. I'm glad I watched it, so fun.
grandma@sh.itjust.works · 22 pts · 96d
Feet first please đź‘Ť
A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
with the chute emptying into a septic tank so they can be amongst their shitty peers.
vrek@programming.dev · 16 pts · 96d
A woodchipper might work but you gotta admit that a guillotine is a good way to get a head...
capuccino@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 96d
this guy is a little dinosaur
charonn0@startrek.website · 11 pts · 96d
Whenever guillotines are brought up I like to point out that ~90% of the people guillotined during the French Revolution were regular commoners. And the last guy to be guillotined was the guy who had been in charge of deciding who to guillotine next.
SPRUNTnsfw@fedinsfw.app · 9 pts · 96d
Excellent! As long as you start feet-first.
Matriks404@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 95d
I've actually seen and helped to operate one of these connected to a tractor. And I must say that these scare me so much, lol.
plz1@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 95d
That is the proper level of respect for one, as well. They don't discriminate.
TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 96d
Having shopped for one of these repeatedly for years and years, the strongest piece of advice I've received is to make sure to not undersized it for your requirements. With chippers, its go big or don't go at all, or you WILL find yourself regretting it, having to shut down the machine to clean it or clear jams, etc. Its just not worth it to get the undersized units. If anything, go oversized for what you think your needs are going to be.
Goferking0@ttrpg.network · 7 pts · 96d
Idk have you seen gas prices these days?
Is there an electric one we can plug in?
DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 96d
Too slow, and too expensive. And, as others pointed out, not environmentally friendly. Also, once they're dead, it's just making more mess to clean up. Also also, we miss the spectacle of the head being held up, and the potential to see the head blink or move the eyes just before death, and the noise would compete with the cheers of the crowd.
I vote for the cheap and reliable guillotine, which can be built by any handyman with a trip to a lumber yard. Line them up, read out their crimes and keep them moving. They just roll down a ramp into a mass grave, toss the head in after the body. Bury them, and build a solar farm on top.
smuuthbrane@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 96d
You wouldn't use one of these, you'd use one of the municipal grade ones that can take 8" branches. Your city already has them, they're powerful, and close at hand.
arrow74@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 96d
Hear me out though, feet first
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 96d
That's the important part;
IT MUST BE SLOW.
Bytemeister@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 94d
I vote for a big guillotine, but instead of cutting the head off, it cuts them in half along their spine. Oh, and the blade is angled so it starts with the ass. Also, this one goes slowly instead of dropping really fast.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 95d
I'm not for any sort of humane solution here. Any human rights advocate in this place.
Leave immediately.
Etterra@discuss.online · 6 pts · 95d
That one night be a little underpowered. You want it to be slow, but not jam up completely. If it takes too long they'll just bleed out.
darkearth@sh.itjust.works · 6 pts · 96d
immediate compost
meowmeow@quokk.au · 6 pts · 96d
Fun fact, they don’t actually work that well on bodies. Don’t ask how I know.
https://www.rotochopper.com/product/sarlac/
That is a better solution. And it’s electric and quiet.
brownsugga@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 96d
LMAO it's called Sarlac
AeonFelis@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 5 pts · 95d
Feet first!
trashboypro@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 96d
No, we need to go way back to the Code of Hammurabi.
Whatever they did to those kids, they will experience before begging to die.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 5 pts · 96d
Wouldn't want to risk them enjoying it, how about we feed them a nonpethal dose of EA-3167 first
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/EA-3167
Etterra@discuss.online · 3 pts · 95d
I mean the sap from this nightmare of a tree might be a better pick.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 95d
While I do enjoy a more natural approach, I don't think they're deserving of a toxic chemical.
I prefer the sweet irony of them being forced to experience the affront to god that their system made.
Etterra@discuss.online · 2 pts · 95d
Irony is good, but if you really want to drag the suffering out then you've gotta out off the carnage until after you've really broken them.
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 95d
Hence the drug designed by the agency to give you hallucinations described as "unspeakable horrors" with effects that can last for weeks.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
How is that better? I read the descriptions, and there was "only" horrible blistering and burning on affected areas and blindness for a few days.
The effects of the aforementioned drug, though:
Etterra@discuss.online · 1 pts · 95d
Because it grows out of the ground. A couldn't even begin to figure out where to get that other thing.
Dasus@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
But has basically the same effects as bleach, which is probably easier to get.
If you want something natural and easy to get: daturas.
Datura is a genus of nine species of highly poisonous, vespertine-flowering plants belonging to the nightshade family (Solanaceae).[1] They are commonly known as thornapples or jimsonweeds, but are also known as devil's trumpets or mad apple[2] (not to be confused with angel's trumpets, which are placed in the closely related genus Brugmansia). Other English common names include moonflower, devil's weed, and hell's bells. All species of Datura are extremely poisonous and psychoactive, especially their seeds and flowers, which can cause respiratory depression, arrhythmias, fever, delirium, hallucinations, anticholinergic toxidrome, psychosis, and death, if taken internally.
Datura is considered a deliriant. Due to the potent combination of anticholinergic substances it contains, Datura intoxication typically produces the effects of anticholinergic delirium (usually involving a complete or relative inability to differentiate reality from fantasy); bizarre thoughts, hyperthermia; tachycardia; bizarre, and possibly violent behavior; dry skin; dry mouth; illusions; and severe mydriasis (dilated pupils) with resultant painful photophobia that can last several days.[42] Muscle stiffness, urinary retention, temporary paralysis, disrobing, emotional bluntness, dysphoria, and confusion are often reported, and pronounced amnesia is another commonly reported effect.[43][44] The psychoactive alkaloids scopolamine and atropine are also both known for their characteristic hyperactive effects and ability to cause stark and dream-like hallucinations.[45][46] The onset of symptoms generally occurs around 30 to 60 minutes after ingesting the herb. These symptoms generally last from 24 to 48 hours, but have been reported in some cases to last two weeks or longer.
In Pharmacology and Abuse of Cocaine, Amphetamines, Ecstasy and Related Designer Drugs, Freye asserts, "Few substances have received as many severely negative recreational experience reports as has Datura."
Jimsonweed is literally a super common plant, found throughout the US and worldwide, like are many other daturas as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datura
NihilsineNefas@slrpnk.net · 2 pts · 95d
Edgewood Arsenal, it's in the name :D
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
E A DRUGS. ITS IN THE PAIN.
kreskin@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
We need hammurabis code really badly right now. The justice systems across the globe are just not anywhere near just. Israel and the american police forces would be a fine place to start.
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 95d
But those freaks would probably like it.
I say hook them up to nutrient IV drips, and put sensory depravation gear on them, and just forget them in the darkness.
No1@aussie.zone · 4 pts · 96d
I saw the icon pic for this, and thought:
"Dinosaur! Cool!"
LSNLDN@slrpnk.net · 3 pts · 96d
YEESSSS FEET FIRST FOR THE EPSTEIN CLASS
Sharkticon@lemmy.zip · 3 pts · 96d
Cursed saxophone
WorldsDumbestMan@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 95d
We can get the brass bull.
Mangoholic@lemmy.ml · 3 pts · 95d
But guillotines are very environmentally friendly.
Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 94d
The environmental impact of chipping the rotation class in severely overshadows the difference in the degree of environmental friendliness between these two options. Let's just pick whichever one is most convenient or portable at the time.
Apeman42@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
What about the serene and beautiful simplicity of just flinging them from very high cliffs?
K1nsey6@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 95d
And we could picnic afterwards
PieMePlenty@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 95d
iocase@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 93d
Formfiller@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 96d
LETS GOOOOOO!
JayhawkJedi@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d