You conveniently skipped over the first definition pointing out that art is learnable. Consciousness is not a requirement. Animals, insects, and even natural events create things that feel artistic. AI models imagination as a mix of learned patterns and controlled randomness. I see what it generates as a result of a machine that never experienced the world and yet attempts to recreate observations from it.
Thats like saying EDM isnt music, its just noise. REAL music takes the conscious use of skill to play a REAL instrument. Not just make noises with a computer.
Saying its different doesn't make it different. That exact argument was made when techno first came out.
Its not even an accurate argument in most cases as both AI art and AI music still take creative input from the end user to make in any meaningful way. I've heard some really funny AI songs people have made by inputting their own lyrics in and tweaking the results until the AI generated song was what they had pictured in their head. Same goes for AI generated art. I've seen some funny ass AI generated memes.
Don't get me wrong, AI generated slop is definitely slop worthy of mockery but not everything AI generated is slop and some of it takes real effort to make.
AI generated "music" is also not art, and not comparable to what some people said about a specific human made music genre at some point. It is a pretty simple concept: AIs can't generate art, because it just regurgitates stolen human made music. Only humans can make music.
Computers cant make art. DUBSTEP isnt comparable to what some people said about techno at some point. Its a pretty simple concept: computers cant generate music because it just generates sounds stolen from REAL instrument made music. Only humans playing on instruments can make music.
Damn, you woulda fit right in with the early 90's techno hate crowd or the late 2000's dubstep hate crowd.
Yea they do, to be fair there is legit reasons to hate on AI art......however there is also a place for AI art. Hating AI art just because its generated by AI is just bandwagon behavior from low IQ losers.
How's them boots tasting? You can stop whiteknighting billionaire oligarchs, they are not going to reward you for it. They will never even know you exist.
Did you have a stroke and respond to the wrong comment or something? Here is an AI generated picture of you having a stroke and responding to the wrong comment:
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TheImpressiveX@lemmy.today · 20 pts · 131d
"Art" implies that the images generated are a conscious use of skill and creative imagination^[1]^.
I prefer to use the term "AI-generated images".
wrinkle2409@lemmy.cafe · -2 pts · 129d
You conveniently skipped over the first definition pointing out that art is learnable. Consciousness is not a requirement. Animals, insects, and even natural events create things that feel artistic. AI models imagination as a mix of learned patterns and controlled randomness. I see what it generates as a result of a machine that never experienced the world and yet attempts to recreate observations from it.
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -23 pts · 131d
Thats like saying EDM isnt music, its just noise. REAL music takes the conscious use of skill to play a REAL instrument. Not just make noises with a computer.
kamenlady@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 131d
This is different. Don't forget,
they'rethere's also AI music slop that's polluting all streamers.Edit: damn, sorry for the confusion
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -19 pts · 131d
Saying its different doesn't make it different. That exact argument was made when techno first came out.
Its not even an accurate argument in most cases as both AI art and AI music still take creative input from the end user to make in any meaningful way. I've heard some really funny AI songs people have made by inputting their own lyrics in and tweaking the results until the AI generated song was what they had pictured in their head. Same goes for AI generated art. I've seen some funny ass AI generated memes.
Don't get me wrong, AI generated slop is definitely slop worthy of mockery but not everything AI generated is slop and some of it takes real effort to make.
Rothe@piefed.social · 10 pts · 131d
AI generated "music" is also not art, and not comparable to what some people said about a specific human made music genre at some point. It is a pretty simple concept: AIs can't generate art, because it just regurgitates stolen human made music. Only humans can make music.
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -10 pts · 131d
Computers cant make art. DUBSTEP isnt comparable to what some people said about techno at some point. Its a pretty simple concept: computers cant generate music because it just generates sounds stolen from REAL instrument made music. Only humans playing on instruments can make music.
Damn, you woulda fit right in with the early 90's techno hate crowd or the late 2000's dubstep hate crowd.
BradleyUffner@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 129d
Unfortunately, a lot of people seem to love it too.
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -28 pts · 131d
Yea they do, to be fair there is legit reasons to hate on AI art......however there is also a place for AI art. Hating AI art just because its generated by AI is just bandwagon behavior from low IQ losers.
Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 131d
Defending Big AI, Now that's some low IQ loser shit right there
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -16 pts · 131d
"Not defacto hating everything AI == defending big AI" is exactly the kinda low IQ take I was talking about.
Is the "big AI" im defending in the room with us right now?
Rothe@piefed.social · 5 pts · 131d
How's them boots tasting? You can stop whiteknighting billionaire oligarchs, they are not going to reward you for it. They will never even know you exist.
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -18 pts · 131d
Did you have a stroke and respond to the wrong comment or something? Here is an AI generated picture of you having a stroke and responding to the wrong comment:
Rothe@piefed.social · 5 pts · 131d
No, there is no place for AI art. Primarily because it doesn't exist, AIs cannot make art.
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -19 pts · 131d
This is AI art I made of you writing this comment. Seems like i found the perfect place for AI art.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 130d
You made that? Then how is it ai art?
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -9 pts · 130d
I made it with AI.
I came up with the prompt all on my own.
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 130d
So when I ask a baker to make a cake, I made the cake?
TheDankMemegician36@thelemmy.club · -5 pts · 130d
Are you arguing that the AI is its own conscious individual?
dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 130d
No.