I will never understand how the United States, formerly supposedly the greatest democracy in the world (yea yeah, I know) is so eager to cede patriotism to the scummiest racists and lowlifes.
Punching Nazis is American. Welcoming immigrants with open arms is American. Fuck those inbred bastards who use the flag as a symbol of hate.
Sadly so is being anti-immigrant. The Alien and Sedition Acts were created less than fifteen years after the Constitution. The Know Nothing Party was a popular anti-immigrant party in the mid 1800s. From then to the mid 1900s were, the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882), The National Origins Act (1924), Japanese Concentration Camps (WW2), Operation Wetback (1954), and those are just the big ones.
The ideals that you have for the US are noble, I hold them too. It’s amazing what the US could be if we (especially our politicians) actually held ourselves to those ideals while addressing our current problems.
My point here is that, you can determine your own message. You can choose what to focus on. Of course, we all know what racism is as American as AR15s and Apple pie. But, as a society, it’s a choice to communicate “racism is an American value” or, something else.
It's the people at the top brainwashing and propagandizing the capitalist-enslaved class. We should start at the top and remove those un-American racist billionaires
Democrats could instantly and easily sidestep a lot of transphobic fear mongering by simply saying, "you don't have to like or even understand it, but its these people's right as free Americans."
I don't think they're interested in doing that, though.
Exactly we don't need these arbitrary identities separating us. Patriotism leads to Nationalism. It reinforces in-group and out-group mentality that can be readily co-opted by the right wing to manipulate people into fearing their fellow working class.
It also blinds people to the flaws of the country they identify with; it causes people to become defensive when it is rightfully criticized by taking it as a personal attack on their identity.
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vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 71 pts · 104d
This, but unironically.
I will never understand how the United States, formerly supposedly the greatest democracy in the world (yea yeah, I know) is so eager to cede patriotism to the scummiest racists and lowlifes.
Punching Nazis is American. Welcoming immigrants with open arms is American. Fuck those inbred bastards who use the flag as a symbol of hate.
Taco2112@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 104d
Sadly so is being anti-immigrant. The Alien and Sedition Acts were created less than fifteen years after the Constitution. The Know Nothing Party was a popular anti-immigrant party in the mid 1800s. From then to the mid 1900s were, the Chinese Exclusion Act (1882), The National Origins Act (1924), Japanese Concentration Camps (WW2), Operation Wetback (1954), and those are just the big ones.
The ideals that you have for the US are noble, I hold them too. It’s amazing what the US could be if we (especially our politicians) actually held ourselves to those ideals while addressing our current problems.
vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 10 pts · 104d
Of course.
My point here is that, you can determine your own message. You can choose what to focus on. Of course, we all know what racism is as American as AR15s and Apple pie. But, as a society, it’s a choice to communicate “racism is an American value” or, something else.
BlindPenguin@lemmy.world · 15 pts · 104d
Before or after manifesting their destiny over half the continent?
vzqq@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 18 pts · 104d
I’m strictly speaking about self-perception here.
We all know the many sins of the USA.
somethingsnappy@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 104d
How I wish that were true.
rockettaco37@feddit.nu · 8 pts · 104d
What mattered was that the US was moving forwards and not backwards. We were building a more inclusive America for all.
That’s no longer the case.
FenrirIII@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 104d
It's the people at the top brainwashing and propagandizing the capitalist-enslaved class. We should start at the top and remove those un-American racist billionaires
AppleTea@lemmy.zip · 12 pts · 103d
Democrats could instantly and easily sidestep a lot of transphobic fear mongering by simply saying, "you don't have to like or even understand it, but its these people's right as free Americans."
I don't think they're interested in doing that, though.
Inucune@lemmy.world · 11 pts · 104d
And remember: if your truck didn't come from the factory with truck nuts, then it is trans. I don't make the rules.
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 103d
That’s just the right amount of eagle mixed in with a little “BUH-CAAAHWK”.
cheff’s kiss
Raiderkev@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 103d
Fun fact, the "eagle" you're probably thinking about is a red tail hawk. Bald eagles sound like pussy ass bitches.
https://youtube.com/shorts/KNsHsFEONlg
FreddiesLantern@leminal.space · 5 pts · 103d
Oh neat! I didn’t know that.
I was thinking more along the lines of a looney tunes type of chicken/rooster sound. (On account of the freaky eyes)
Kaligalis@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 104d
There is just one gender anyway: worker drone.
meowmeow@quokk.au · 1 pts · 104d
PlaidBaron@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 104d
Wot
meowmeow@quokk.au · 1 pts · 104d
slevinkelevra@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 104d
Wrong thead. Here you go
meowmeow@quokk.au · 1 pts · 104d
Jfc
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 104d
No don't try to redeem patriotism destroy it instead.
zeejoo@thelemmy.club · 1 pts · 104d
Nationalism ≠ patriotism
theuniqueone@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 1 pts · 104d
Yep both are bad though.
zeejoo@thelemmy.club · 2 pts · 104d
At best, one is a significantly larger problem than the other and acting like they're equally bad is disingenuous and idiotic.
Doc_Crankenstein@slrpnk.net · 1 pts · 104d
Exactly we don't need these arbitrary identities separating us. Patriotism leads to Nationalism. It reinforces in-group and out-group mentality that can be readily co-opted by the right wing to manipulate people into fearing their fellow working class.
It also blinds people to the flaws of the country they identify with; it causes people to become defensive when it is rightfully criticized by taking it as a personal attack on their identity.