It's a bullshit headline. The researchers were using an addiction metaphor to explain minor behavioural changes and the writer posted "withdrawal symptoms!"
Everyone's struggle is valid, everyone handles different stresses in different ways. Bullying people won't make them fit in the box you have made for them.
If someone is bitching this hard about not having their phone (while they should be paying attention in school, I might add!), then they are on the phone too damn much and need it taken away.
Children were handed a portal to all the information they could want, and constant contact with everyone they know.
I'd stress if someone stole all of that from me too. If you want to bully me over it go for it, but don't bully children for crying out loud.
Edit: also read the article. Nobody is complaining. They are using data to show it can take years of phone limiting to get the desired results of better behavior and test scores.
Ah yes, it's the children's fault we haven't changed our approach to education since the industrial revolution.
I texted and listened to my iPod in school, I can guarantee students have been disruptive and hard to teach forever. The phones may enhance their distraction but, students doodle, daydream, and dissociate all the time.
Want students engaged in schooling? Engage with programs that make education more interesting, and help students find better ways to learn.
You literally cut off the other half of that idea that explains the phones are not the center of the problem, and said they are the center of the problem.
If you want to miss the point and argue in bad faith, go ahead I guess.
You won't change my mind: School needs to be engaging enough that students don't seek distractions. Phones, books, clicky-pens, daydreams, doodles, writing, passing notes, all fulfill the same exact purpose of amusing a bored mind.
Unfortunately, I did not choose the level of privilege I was born into. It sucks that you feel like trauma has to be some pissing contest. Please try to be a little nicer to people, I'm sure it will get you a lot further in the long run.
Researchers believe that the students, especially younger ones, may have turned to more disruptive behavior when they no longer had access to their phones.
Yeah, no shit? Phones tend to serve as a distraction that kills boredom; disruptive behavior is frequently (maybe usually) the result of boredom.
“One conjecture is that this resembles, to some degree, withdrawal symptoms,” he said. “Students are unhappy and disruptive the moment their phones are taken away.”
They're understandably bored and then, understandably, try to kill their boredom in other, more disruptive ways. I for one very much prefer students being on their phones (or other devices) to beating each other up, damaging property, or insulting each other in psychologically damaging ways out of boredom! No idea what about this is supposed to resemble withdrawal symptoms.
I drink heavily because I’m bored. When I don’t drink, I become an aggravated asshole, and some people call it withdrawal. My best option in this situation is clearly to drink more, not investigate the deeper reasons for my behaviour, and do nothing to better my own mental and physical state.
Kids weren’t damaging property and starting fight clubs as often as you seem to think before phones came along.
Kids should be learning how to regulate their emotions, but phones are easy.
Alcohol damages the body, phones definitely don't do that.
I remember being a child and early teenager before anyone I knew had mobile Internet. Many of us engaged in highly disruptive behavior, including behavior harmful to others, when bored.
19 Comments
LemmyEntertainYou@piefed.social · 7 pts · 113d
What I don't understand is when did phones become allowed in schools? I was at secondary school from 2005-2010 and phone's were banned throughout.
meowmeow@quokk.au · 6 pts · 113d
Encephalotrocity@feddit.online · 12 pts · 113d
It's a bullshit headline. The researchers were using an addiction metaphor to explain minor behavioural changes and the writer posted "withdrawal symptoms!"
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 8 pts · 113d
Everyone's struggle is valid, everyone handles different stresses in different ways. Bullying people won't make them fit in the box you have made for them.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 113d
If someone is bitching this hard about not having their phone (while they should be paying attention in school, I might add!), then they are on the phone too damn much and need it taken away.
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 9 pts · 113d
Children were handed a portal to all the information they could want, and constant contact with everyone they know.
I'd stress if someone stole all of that from me too. If you want to bully me over it go for it, but don't bully children for crying out loud.
Edit: also read the article. Nobody is complaining. They are using data to show it can take years of phone limiting to get the desired results of better behavior and test scores.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 113d
Come now. You and I both know kids in a geometry lecture aren't using their phones to look up geometry proofs.
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 7 pts · 113d
Ah yes, it's the children's fault we haven't changed our approach to education since the industrial revolution.
I texted and listened to my iPod in school, I can guarantee students have been disruptive and hard to teach forever. The phones may enhance their distraction but, students doodle, daydream, and dissociate all the time.
Want students engaged in schooling? Engage with programs that make education more interesting, and help students find better ways to learn.
RamRabbit@lemmy.world · -4 pts · 113d
Yes, that is why phones are increasingly banned during school. A whole host of distractions are banned during school.
We can (and should) do both!
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 8 pts · 113d
You literally cut off the other half of that idea that explains the phones are not the center of the problem, and said they are the center of the problem.
If you want to miss the point and argue in bad faith, go ahead I guess.
You won't change my mind: School needs to be engaging enough that students don't seek distractions. Phones, books, clicky-pens, daydreams, doodles, writing, passing notes, all fulfill the same exact purpose of amusing a bored mind.
meowmeow@quokk.au · -11 pts · 113d
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 9 pts · 113d
Unfortunately, I did not choose the level of privilege I was born into. It sucks that you feel like trauma has to be some pissing contest. Please try to be a little nicer to people, I'm sure it will get you a lot further in the long run.
meowmeow@quokk.au · -9 pts · 113d
Lmfao, how you can’t tell that you are actually the bully. So funny.
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 4 pts · 113d
Really? I feel like everything I've said has been pretty civil all things considered.
meowmeow@quokk.au · -9 pts · 113d
You’re the problem honey. Go play with your phone.
glitchy_nobody@leminal.space · 4 pts · 113d
Gladly, I'll go learn some new programming concepts on Khan Academy. Thank you for the excellent suggestion.
Lastly, please consider breaking less community rules. I count 3, arguably 4 you have violated here.
Thank you for engaging with Lemmy and keeping it active.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 113d
Yeah, no shit? Phones tend to serve as a distraction that kills boredom; disruptive behavior is frequently (maybe usually) the result of boredom.
They're understandably bored and then, understandably, try to kill their boredom in other, more disruptive ways. I for one very much prefer students being on their phones (or other devices) to beating each other up, damaging property, or insulting each other in psychologically damaging ways out of boredom! No idea what about this is supposed to resemble withdrawal symptoms.
KaChilde@sh.itjust.works · 3 pts · 113d
I drink heavily because I’m bored. When I don’t drink, I become an aggravated asshole, and some people call it withdrawal. My best option in this situation is clearly to drink more, not investigate the deeper reasons for my behaviour, and do nothing to better my own mental and physical state.
Kids weren’t damaging property and starting fight clubs as often as you seem to think before phones came along.
Kids should be learning how to regulate their emotions, but phones are easy.
schnurrito@discuss.tchncs.de · 0 pts · 113d
Alcohol damages the body, phones definitely don't do that.
I remember being a child and early teenager before anyone I knew had mobile Internet. Many of us engaged in highly disruptive behavior, including behavior harmful to others, when bored.