cross-posted from: https://news.abolish.capital/post/49178
I took my first ride in a Chinese car recently. Not in the U.S., of course, since sky-high tariffs have made them almost impossible to import. I was visiting family in the U.K., and we rented a BYD Sealion SUV. And let me tell you: I saw immediately why American car companies are desperate to have these things kept out of this country. It was elegantly designed, incredibly comfortable, and a smooth ride.
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15 Comments
tidderuuf@lemmy.world · 21 pts · 97d
Chinese Propaganda go brrrrrt.
Also the reasons why we shouldn't buy Chinese cars are exactly the reasons not to buy American cars because they are guilty of the same shit.
But imagine if we lived in a world where there are other manufacturers?
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 97d
So buy who's vehicles? We don't make anything here.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 97d
European, Korean, Japanese.
Ixoid@aussie.zone · -3 pts · 96d
So same as before, reward the old brands who dragged their heels on electrification until the market forced them to adapt?
backalleycoyote@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 96d
If someone wants to provide an electric car that has zero amenities and is push buttons and manual everything expect for it’s fuel source, I’ll bite. Otherwise I’ll stick to scavenging 80s Subarus.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 96d
Nissan and Renault were among the pioneers, That's Europe and Japan. So your cranky sour post doesn't even make sense.
Europe is also far ahead of USA in every way, both on production and implementation.
Japan spend enormous resources trying to get hydrogen to work. Which many scientists continued to claim was the future.
China had a young industry, that requires huge investments to catch up no matter if they chose ICE or Electric. The Chinese government was wise enough to see Electric is the way forward, and gave Chinese makers huge subsidies to encourage them to focus on electric.
So please explain what point it is you are trying to make? Because your post makes absolutely zero sense in this reality.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 97d
Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 97d
So why are we OK with slave labour for some stuff and jit others? I mean I dont see it brought up so much for other stuff.
reddig33@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 97d
Scotty@scribe.disroot.org · 4 pts · 97d
That's not only security concern but also labour abuse. BYD's Hungary plant is just another case among many:
Seven-day weeks and ‘debt bondage’: China’s first electric car plant in Europe mired in allegations of worker abuse
As the article says,
There are also environmental and health risks, as the article says,
Not to forget social issues,
As well as 'debt bondage',
This is a tiny sample.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 97d
jordanlund@lemmy.world MOD · 0 pts · 96d
You're not wrong, but make the point without the ad hominem.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 96d
Where did I say the op was wrong because of his personal qualities?
jordanlund@lemmy.world MOD · 0 pts · 96d
Childish insults by changing their name and unfounded accusations.
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yogthos@lemmy.ml · 0 pts · 96d
sure, then just say no insults
Maeve@kbin.earth · 0 pts · 96d
Again, no different than Nestlé or IKEA getting away with garbage practices when operating outside their own states. A Hungary problem.
Buffalox@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 97d
Who are "they"?
artyom@piefed.social · 3 pts · 96d
They don't want you buying them for the same reason they don't want you buying German or Japanese cars. Its a reasonable expectation for any country to try and protect their local economy.
However the Chinese exploit cheap/slave labor, and in turn we've handed them global economic power by allowing our companies (and virtually every other country) to outsource labor to exploit it as well. But that has centralized global manufacturing, which also makes them insanely powerful, and able to manufacture things much more inexpensively.
Add to that government incentives and there's no way anyone else can compete, because they're not doing so on an even playing field.