c/3dprinting · by Monkey@piefed.social · 82d

Louis Rossmann taunts Bambu Lab by hosting banned 3D Printer firmware fork, dares $1 billion company to sue him — more creators pledge support and boycotts, Snapmaker donates equipment to embattled de

https://www.tomshardware.com/3d-printing/louis-rossmann-taunts-bambu-lab-by-hosting-banned-3d-printer-firmware-fork-dares-usd1-billion-company-to-sue-him-more-creators-pledge-support-and-boycotts-snapmaker-donates-equipment-to-embattled-developer

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cubism_pitta@lemmy.world · 87 pts · 82d (3 replies)

Rossmann annoys me, but god damn I love that he is taking up these fights.

papalonian@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 82d (1 reply)

He certainly can be off-putting. The two videos related to this topic were pretty good though, imo

cubism_pitta@lemmy.world · 19 pts · 82d

Love his work and him for it though.

AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 81d

At least he never dropped a "hard R" unlike LTT

acutfjg@feddit.nl · 37 pts · 82d (6 replies)

Taunts? More like following protocol someone else is trying to illegally exploit

TowardsTheFuture@lemmy.zip · 33 pts · 82d

I mean, he did also literally taunt them.

fubbernuckin@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 26 pts · 82d (4 replies)

No, he does pretty explicitly taunt them.

if you think you can do better than Apple, Google, Cisco, IBM, John Deere, and the entire medical industry, well, be my guest. You can try but I don't think it's going to end very well for you. And here's a message I have for Bambu Labs, if you so much as send me a postcard, here's what I'm going to do to you. Number one, I'm going to hire the best lawyers to destroy your entire section 121 claim. We will make you look so bad that this will be part of the precedent that we use for reforming this law in the United States of America. Number two, AGPL violations...

Whatever amount of money you cost me, I will ensure that I cost you a minimum of 5 to 20 times that in legal fees. I am that confident in the fact that your case is garbage. So do your best. Try to take down my github repo. Send me a cease and desist. I look forward to your notice.

if the legal team at Bambu Lab is watching this, make my day. I'll have fun with this one.

Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 80d (3 replies)

Rossmann is just posturing for his fans.

He ain't got the kind of money it takes for this kind of fight. Prusa looked into to filing a possible court case. And they decided this is a fight they can't afford and can't win. Because it's not only Bambu's lawyers, but the Chinese government's money they have. And remember, the Chinese government holds a stake in Bambu. And Prusa can afford a lot better lawyers than Rossmann can.

eltoukan@jlai.lu · 1 pts · 79d (1 reply)

Even if he doesn't have the money for court, the noise generated by all this might drive customers away?

Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 79d

It might. But I don't think there has been much of a cooling for Bambu's market share. There are plenty of fanbois and their marketing IS effective for first time buyers.

scoobydoo27@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 80d

No Prusa decided not to pursue it because it’s software related and very hard to enforce. They can spend the money and nothing will change.

sun_is_ra@sh.itjust.works · 8 pts · 82d

Link to original video (Odysee)

https://odysee.com/@rossmanngroup:a/hey-bambu-lab-come-sue-us.:4

prenatal_confusion@feddit.org · 1 pts · 81d (6 replies)

Does somebody know more about the part where Bambu claims that orca is 'hacking' their cloud? How? By using the API? By actually breaking something?

FleetingTit@feddit.org · 9 pts · 81d

As far as I understand it some guy created an OrcaSlicer fork that uses the same application identifier as BambuStudio when sending stuff to their cloud services. The identifier is available in their open source code.

It just seems like bad security architecture which would need to be fixed, but they instead try bully their way out of it.

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 81d (4 replies)

OrcaSlicer is a fork of Bambu Slicer (which is a fork of Prusa Slicer, and that's a fork of Slic3r). There was a fork of Orca that used the same (GPL licensed, mind you) code that Bambu Slicer uses to access their cloud service, since OrcaSlicer removed that functionality last year. There's no foul play here by the devs, it's just Bambu blaming their security issues on a small community project. Very much against the ethos of open-source, picking on smaller members of the community is very much not nice.

Auli@lemmy.ca · 2 pts · 80d (1 reply)

Its a fork of Orca not the main Orca slicer project.

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 80d

Oh, whoops! I will fix that now

Bluewing@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 81d (1 reply)

Not to defend Bambu in any way, but they seem to be stuck between the AGPL and the Chinese government that wants control over the software in the name of 'national Security' (this applies to nearly every industry in China). And third parties are outside actors that they can't control. Which I think might be why Bambu is acting like they are. Their government is now leaning on them to rein this in. And companies in China fear the government more than the rest of the world.

When Bambu first started won this path, didn't they say one could buy a license to tie into their code? And Orca refused to do that. I wonder if part of the "price" involved approval from the Chinese government about backdoor access.

sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 1 pts · 80d

There are other Chinese companies that produce 3D printers that aren't acting in a similar way, like Elegoo and Qidi. Of course, they aren't the most open (closed firmware and such. Corporations be corporate) but they do still support third-party slicers and all that. Perhaps this could play a part in Bambu's decision, especially given that they are a larger player in the space, but it can't explain all of it.