Do you think any of these qualify as anything more than hobby projects?
I'm not sure I'd consider a single-threaded browser application to be relevant in 2026. IE7 still technically exists too, and if you really wanted to you could run Netscape Navigator, but I wouldn't count them among functional current browsers.
no, that is exactly the issue. The fact that Andreas Kling is willing to interact with lunduke, dhh, and similar people on a semi-regular basis is not a great look.
Oh, that podcast was with Kling, not about him. That is unfortunate.
I remember there was some drama with Ladybird after some he/him pronouns were changed to they/them in the (instructions?). Back then, from my very not-involved point of view, it seemed to come from some sort of misunderstanding/improper pull request. Maybe I was hopeful.
... this lends more credence to my hope being misplaced.
hey, links2 is still alive and well, and there are now terminal browsers like chawan that can render images mostly correctly. There's also a few that are actually either chromium or gecko. avoid those.
I do use links2 sometimes for looking things up on wikipedia or reading blogs or something like that, easier than starting a gui browser. but the usecase is a tad niche
Ladybird is being built from the ground up right now, looks promising. Too bad every site under the sun bows to chromium and even when they don’t follow web standards they still become the defacto defaulto standard. Ugh.
I wouldn’t call all of them simple reskins. Some actually improve on the browser with privacy features and stuff (like brave, but it also ruins it by adding crypto crap).
There is still a distinction between something being public domain so not needing to ask permission and giving attribution which is always a nice thing to do.
Unfortunately Brave does exist, but you still shouldn't use it. They run a crypto thing, they built AI into their browser, and have done shady stuff in the past.
I hear Vivaldi is great, if you want a Chrome-like.
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TherapyGary@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 72 pts · 91d
According to my app this was the boobth post
Stamau123@lemmy.world · 25 pts · 90d
Thank you for posting boob tracking content!
Spezi@feddit.org · 3 pts · 90d
Time for the mods to lock the community indefinitely now. Maybe we can reach 6969 subscribers too? 👉👈
isVeryLoud@lemmy.ca · 1 pts · 88d
No, we have to reach 80085 posts
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 56 pts · 90d
There are 3 browsers. Everything else is just a reskin.
wander1236@sh.itjust.works · 13 pts · 90d
You could argue Goanna is its own thing by now. It was forked from Gecko, but Blink/Chromium was initially forked from WebKit.
There's also Servo and LibWeb, but I don't think either is really usable yet.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 9 pts · 90d
Do you think any of these qualify as anything more than hobby projects?
I'm not sure I'd consider a single-threaded browser application to be relevant in 2026. IE7 still technically exists too, and if you really wanted to you could run Netscape Navigator, but I wouldn't count them among functional current browsers.
tb_@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 90d
What about LadyBirdEdit: that's LibWeb
anise@awful.systems · 6 pts · 90d
vibecoded fashtech, but servo does exist
tb_@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 90d
I won't entirely disagree with the vibecode part, but I don't think Lunduke is a particularly trustworthy source.
anise@awful.systems · 6 pts · 90d
no, that is exactly the issue. The fact that Andreas Kling is willing to interact with lunduke, dhh, and similar people on a semi-regular basis is not a great look.
e: more people you really don't want to associate with
tb_@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 90d
Oh, that podcast was with Kling, not about him. That is unfortunate.
I remember there was some drama with Ladybird after some he/him pronouns were changed to they/them in the (instructions?). Back then, from my very not-involved point of view, it seemed to come from some sort of misunderstanding/improper pull request. Maybe I was hopeful.
... this lends more credence to my hope being misplaced.
turbowafflz@lemmy.world · 10 pts · 90d
And only 2 main lineages left, Chromium and WebKit are both KHTML descendants
sudo@programming.dev · 8 pts · 90d
There's also QtWebEngine, WebKitGTK+ and all the tui browsers.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 13 pts · 90d
which is Chromium
which is WebKit
...yeah, and I'm sure someone out there still has a working telegraph, but I wouldn't list it as part of telecommunications infrastructure.
anise@awful.systems · 4 pts · 90d
hey, links2 is still alive and well, and there are now terminal browsers like chawan that can render images mostly correctly. There's also a few that are actually either chromium or gecko. avoid those.
NaibofTabr@infosec.pub · 3 pts · 90d
Oh good, so they're kind of on the level of Netscape Navigator.
anise@awful.systems · 3 pts · 90d
around and about sorta. still no javascript tho
I do use links2 sometimes for looking things up on wikipedia or reading blogs or something like that, easier than starting a gui browser. but the usecase is a tad niche
Endymion_Mallorn@kbin.melroy.org · 7 pts · 90d
QtWebEngine is just Chromium.
But yes, Links and Lynx are real.
floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 4 pts · 90d
You meant Konqueror, the other WebKit browser
lyrial@anarchist.nexus · 7 pts · 90d
This is Lynx erasure.
read_desert@lemmy.ml · 1 pts · 87d
Ladybird is being built from the ground up right now, looks promising. Too bad every site under the sun bows to chromium and even when they don’t follow web standards they still become the defacto defaulto standard. Ugh.
FlordaMan@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 90d
I wouldn’t call all of them simple reskins. Some actually improve on the browser with privacy features and stuff (like brave, but it also ruins it by adding crypto crap).
finalarbiter@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 19 pts · 91d
What? Did they shut down or something? It's definitely a real browser, just scummy as fuck.
Deme@sopuli.xyz · 27 pts · 90d
Probably nonexistent as in
"Wait, it's all just chromium?"
"Always has been."
sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 5 pts · 90d
It's non-exostent as in Unix_surrealism
Sunshine@piefed.ca · 6 pts · 90d
The being ate Brave.
sqw@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 14 pts · 90d
looks like an unattributed pmjv
als@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 7 pts · 90d
It is indeed and is dedicated to the public domain
underscore_@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 90d
There is still a distinction between something being public domain so not needing to ask permission and giving attribution which is always a nice thing to do.
jaschop@awful.systems · 10 pts · 90d
Unfortunately Brave does exist, but you still shouldn't use it. They run a crypto thing, they built AI into their browser, and have done shady stuff in the past.
I hear Vivaldi is great, if you want a Chrome-like.
defaultusername@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 17 pts · 90d
Vivaldi is proprietary.
tb_@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 90d
Their CEO has donated to anti-gay bills too
lemonSqueezy@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 90d
Can someone please explain what this means ?
pmjv@lemmy.sdf.org · 10 pts · 90d
it means i just dont believe brave browser is real, but someone else can probably tell you what i truly meant!
AlataOrange@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 4 pts · 91d
?
anise@awful.systems · 11 pts · 91d
It doesn't. You are hallucinating. Or dreaming. Or both. probably both
Kierunkowy74@piefed.social · 6 pts · 91d
All browsers are cowardly