But hollywood scripts are insanely formulaic. They have the upbeats and downbeats of the story mapped out to minutes. I've heard of scripts getting feedback like, "that's too exciting for 14:30, it should happen at 16:00 instead."
I don't want ai to be putting writers out of work, but writers are already just choosing which words to slot into the same basic structure again and again.
Writing hollywood blockbusters might be close to an ideal use case for a token-based large language model.
No, the fix for studio meddling is not AI writing.
They can fuck out of the writer's room and let the a good product come out of it. If they're hiring good editors and musicians/composers, they'll be able to do all that without cramming "AI" into the writer's room.
Let creative people be creative, for flying fuck's sake.
This "all movies are bad now" shit is so tiring. Bad movies have always existed, it's not new. There are lots of excellent films being put out all of the time if you pay attention.
Have they had a ten minute chicken fight that occurred during a 'remember that one time I met...' flashback that results in a five minute knee joke that ends in an over the top musical production that sounds like every other song written for the show?
I was talking about art. That still happens occasionally in Hollywood. People forget bad films regardless of marketing budget but art stands the test of time.
Ehhhh i still kinda disagree. Sometimes you can see 'oh that's obvs just brilliant'. Like for all that duchamp tried to get away from "Art", his stuff is just obviously visually compelling and looks like art.
But for the most part, "Art" is whatever rich people think will hold value. In trad art that means whatever will impress other rich people. Cinema is a bit different, but i think we will still mostly see that films that elites can talk about to impress other elites are what "stand the test of time".
One of the hosts on my favorite nerd podcast put it this way: it's like when blogging became easy. The real challenge isn't the technical setup of hosting a blog. It's what to write that people want to read.
I am a shit writer. I have always struggled. It took me years after college to get my degree because I couldn't complete my senior thesis. I would love to write non-fiction, but I suck at it.
I rather never put my name on any literary works over using AI shitty slop. AI can go jump off a bridge.
Why Hollywood pays writers I don't know! Fire them and use AI entirely! We shouldn't be waisting money on stories that a 10 year old kid can write again and again for millions of dollars, when AI can do this for maybe hundreds of dollars.
Embrace AI!
22 Comments
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 34 pts · 105d
if ai wrote the thing, you’re not a writer! you didn’t write it!
BigBananaDealer@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 105d
hey! i wrote the prompt! took me ages
kate@lemmy.uhhoh.com · 11 pts · 105d
just ask chat peepee to write the prompt!
monkeyslikebananas2@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 104d
Hegar@fedia.io · 8 pts · 105d
In one sense, i agree.
But hollywood scripts are insanely formulaic. They have the upbeats and downbeats of the story mapped out to minutes. I've heard of scripts getting feedback like, "that's too exciting for 14:30, it should happen at 16:00 instead."
I don't want ai to be putting writers out of work, but writers are already just choosing which words to slot into the same basic structure again and again.
Writing hollywood blockbusters might be close to an ideal use case for a token-based large language model.
LurkingLuddite@piefed.social · 20 pts · 105d
No, the fix for studio meddling is not AI writing.
They can fuck out of the writer's room and let the a good product come out of it. If they're hiring good editors and musicians/composers, they'll be able to do all that without cramming "AI" into the writer's room.
Let creative people be creative, for flying fuck's sake.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 9 pts · 104d
This "all movies are bad now" shit is so tiring. Bad movies have always existed, it's not new. There are lots of excellent films being put out all of the time if you pay attention.
Hegar@fedia.io · 2 pts · 104d
I said that hollywood blocbusters are formulaic, not that all movies are bad.
Tollana1234567@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 105d
some of the most recent family guy episodes, have been suspected of using AI.
Passerby6497@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 104d
I bet even the writers are getting sick of making the same 5 minute hurt knee joke every season and are farming that out.
Rcklsabndn@sh.itjust.works · 1 pts · 104d
Have they had a ten minute chicken fight that occurred during a 'remember that one time I met...' flashback that results in a five minute knee joke that ends in an over the top musical production that sounds like every other song written for the show?
misk@piefed.social · 0 pts · 104d
If everything is formulaic then the success must be determined by something else. Many say that true art comes from overcoming limitations.
Hegar@fedia.io · 0 pts · 104d
Success in hollywood blocbusters is determined by how many people will pay to see a certain actor.
misk@piefed.social · 2 pts · 104d
I was talking about art. That still happens occasionally in Hollywood. People forget bad films regardless of marketing budget but art stands the test of time.
Hegar@fedia.io · 0 pts · 104d
Ehhhh i still kinda disagree. Sometimes you can see 'oh that's obvs just brilliant'. Like for all that duchamp tried to get away from "Art", his stuff is just obviously visually compelling and looks like art.
But for the most part, "Art" is whatever rich people think will hold value. In trad art that means whatever will impress other rich people. Cinema is a bit different, but i think we will still mostly see that films that elites can talk about to impress other elites are what "stand the test of time".
some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org · 4 pts · 104d
One of the hosts on my favorite nerd podcast put it this way: it's like when blogging became easy. The real challenge isn't the technical setup of hosting a blog. It's what to write that people want to read.
hanrahan@slrpnk.net · 4 pts · 105d
and yet Anthony Horowtiz just said he uses AI
MnemonicBump@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 3 pts · 104d
That genuinely may be an improvement, if I'm remembering how I felt about the Alex Rider books correctly
GutterRat42@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 104d
I am a shit writer. I have always struggled. It took me years after college to get my degree because I couldn't complete my senior thesis. I would love to write non-fiction, but I suck at it.
I rather never put my name on any literary works over using AI shitty slop. AI can go jump off a bridge.
roserose56@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 104d
Why Hollywood pays writers I don't know! Fire them and use AI entirely! We shouldn't be waisting money on stories that a 10 year old kid can write again and again for millions of dollars, when AI can do this for maybe hundreds of dollars. Embrace AI!
/J
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 105d
Seth Rogen redemption arc begins?
Maroon@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 105d
Ilandar@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 104d
I don't think he was a particularly well-liked actor, even before the Franco stuff.
tomjuggler@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 105d
Python scripts, on the other hand...