I would like to see how people get their big items home. I assume it has to be delivery. You're not riding the train with a big IKEA chair, much less a couch or a big screen TV or kitchen table.
Not complaining, just actually wonder because that part is not usually shown and others may think they are loosing something by not having a big ass truck to haul stuff to their house on an every day basis for one day of the year.
OK yes, so the question is how. How do they get a sofa or some big thing to their house or apartment from the store/shop. Does the shop unload it out on the street and then you hire a couple of big fellows to carry it a few blocks to your house? Do they dolly it to your house? I bet there has to be like an electric dolly thing that they use.
idk about other countries but here in sweden you'd just order it shipped home by the store itself and that includes everything, even installing it in your home.
You'll generally have exceptions for deliveries, or they can just park a bit away and use a pallet jack or whatever to get it to the door. It's really not that big of an issue.
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's even better because people get jobs related to delivering products which should last since one would assume that products must exist and be sold and delivered for us to have a working society. One can't deliver a couch via phone or internet.
plus it means the people driving actually do it as a job, so they're likely to have better training and will suffer more consequences if they drive badly.
I never lived in a pedestrians-only street myself so I don't know. Occasional access for residents may be tolerated. In the case of the photo above it's not clear whether there are resident buldings, but it's amazing what muscles and/or money can do.
But you can't drive it home. How do you do that last little bit where cars are not allowed? In the Netherlands, I've seen special mini delivery vans and bike vans. But I never really got to see anyone delivering something interesting.
They probably drive it with a mini forklift all the way to your house. If you're up on the 5th floor with no elevator, you're screwed. But maybe they require a service elevator. The IKEA mentality where everything in packaged in a small box or boxed is probably very important. But that's why I'm asking.
A few weeks ago we drove the minivan to a nursery and we were able to fit 4 different trees in it. I bet the whole nursery business is complete different. Like unless you got yard or rooftop you're not getting a tree. Just an example of how things would be different in small ways.
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birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 36 pts · 87d
And all that thanks to Anne Hidalgo. What a great mayor.
Vote left, vote for your wellbeing!
MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz · 11 pts · 87d
Bicycle parking is gone?
I can see it might not fit, since they clearly kept the path wide enough for emergency services to still use it.
emmanuel_car@k.fe.derate.me · 16 pts · 87d
It looks like bikes are parked between the first & second gardens, there might even be more further back!
Zukata@multiverse.soulism.net · 11 pts · 87d
Nope. Still available according to OpenStreetMap: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/13835889543
frischkaesbagett@feddit.org · 14 pts · 87d
All of them updated 2 days ago so we can be quite sure it is actually there. Holy shit OpenStreetMap is fucking awesome!
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 8 pts · 85d
Donate your time! In my last small town I mapped everything.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 3 pts · 84d
And you only have to map what you feel like, if you just want to map fences that's great!
a_non_monotonic_function@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 84d
Oh absolutely. The outline of a building is fine but a detailed outline is much better.
CactusEcho@piefed.social · 4 pts · 86d
I don't like. The green space should be in the middle and it should have big trees.
huppakee@lemmy.world · 12 pts · 85d
Not sure about this particular case but often roads still need to be able to provide access for emergency vehicles. But trees would be nice yeah.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 4 pts · 85d
College campuses in the U.S. are built like this. If you pay attention you can notice where the roads are (they usually have hydrants)
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 85d
I would like to see how people get their big items home. I assume it has to be delivery. You're not riding the train with a big IKEA chair, much less a couch or a big screen TV or kitchen table.
Not complaining, just actually wonder because that part is not usually shown and others may think they are loosing something by not having a big ass truck to haul stuff to their house on an every day basis for one day of the year.
Bourff@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 85d
It's Paris, where car ownership is only about 20% of the population IIRC. Amazingly, people manage to survive without them.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 85d
OK yes, so the question is how. How do they get a sofa or some big thing to their house or apartment from the store/shop. Does the shop unload it out on the street and then you hire a couple of big fellows to carry it a few blocks to your house? Do they dolly it to your house? I bet there has to be like an electric dolly thing that they use.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 84d
idk about other countries but here in sweden you'd just order it shipped home by the store itself and that includes everything, even installing it in your home.
You'll generally have exceptions for deliveries, or they can just park a bit away and use a pallet jack or whatever to get it to the door. It's really not that big of an issue.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 2 pts · 84d
Yeah, that's what I thought. It's even better because people get jobs related to delivering products which should last since one would assume that products must exist and be sold and delivered for us to have a working society. One can't deliver a couch via phone or internet.
Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de · 2 pts · 83d
plus it means the people driving actually do it as a job, so they're likely to have better training and will suffer more consequences if they drive badly.
Bourff@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 84d
I never lived in a pedestrians-only street myself so I don't know. Occasional access for residents may be tolerated. In the case of the photo above it's not clear whether there are resident buldings, but it's amazing what muscles and/or money can do.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 85d
Usually a car or delivery (you can rent or borrow a car)
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 85d
But you can't drive it home. How do you do that last little bit where cars are not allowed? In the Netherlands, I've seen special mini delivery vans and bike vans. But I never really got to see anyone delivering something interesting.
LodeMike@lemmy.today · 3 pts · 85d
Same way as through your house IG
vaultdweller013@sh.itjust.works · 2 pts · 85d
Better have a modern dolley or it's gonna be a right pain in the ass. Also fuck those small shitty little furniture dolleys.
altphoto@lemmy.today · 1 pts · 85d
They probably drive it with a mini forklift all the way to your house. If you're up on the 5th floor with no elevator, you're screwed. But maybe they require a service elevator. The IKEA mentality where everything in packaged in a small box or boxed is probably very important. But that's why I'm asking.
A few weeks ago we drove the minivan to a nursery and we were able to fit 4 different trees in it. I bet the whole nursery business is complete different. Like unless you got yard or rooftop you're not getting a tree. Just an example of how things would be different in small ways.
john_t@piefed.ee · 2 pts · 87d
SUPER BOCK mentioned! Portugal caralho!!!
10thGlyphix@lemmy.zip · 1 pts · 87d
8/10. Needs trees.