(Okay actually I don't like Chess because too much of the game is memorising openings. The game is only fun if you suck or if you're already a grandmaster. All the in between parts are unfun. That's why I prefer Go.)
At 1600 you might have moved above those who play that way. I've played a bit in the past and I reached 1200 and it seemed like opponents really relied on their openings. If I recognised their opening and played a completely random move they did not know what to do.
Openings are very hyped because "crush xyz in 12 moves" is a really good sell. "Do the hard work and you'll actually improve after like months or years if you do it consistently" is not such a good sell.
And so every new player studies a lot of openings, gets a theoretical grandmaster position (yay, you're equal as Black) and then blunder a piece and lose anyway.
You've never gotten into a better or worse position cuz someone knew an opening trap and the other person did not? GM's fall for that shit every so often so you must not play a lot of chess or something.
Of course it's happened, but saying it's because of the opening is not correct. It's because I didn't calculate well and my other skills were not good enough. In very fast time controls it can give you a big edge if you're good at memorization, but most opening lines work only in very specific circumstances and you can play maaany games before you see it.
Fairly often one player will be in a position where they are more comfortable in intermediate games, but the game is far from over.
Weaker players sometimes fall apart entirely in the opening, but unless you're in the market for the world champion title, there's absolutely no need to memorize openings. Games are decided either by simple tactics or endgame knowledge more than anything at the lower levels.
I liked Battle Chess back in the day because it had chess rules but made the capturing of squares more exciting.
So, at least it got a graphics upgrade after about 1500 years. But, I got tired of it because still, it's just chess. There's no random element, every game starts the same way. Other games like poker are also largely skill based games, but at least each game starts differently.
27 Comments
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 46 pts · 82d
Trans queens, queen is most powerful piece, king weakest. WOKE
exasperation@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 10 pts · 82d
Might not be trans if all the other pieces are women too, which would be woke but in a different way.
hypnicjerk@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 82d
everyone knows the pawn industry exploits women
IAmNorRealTakeYourMeds@lemmy.world · 3 pts · 82d
That's even more woke!!
hOrni@lemmy.world · 28 pts · 82d
Like musk said, only 64 squares, not fog of war, too easy.
9point6@lemmy.world · 38 pts · 82d
I would easily believe musk has lost every game of chess he's ever played
RamenJunkie@midwest.social · 5 pts · 82d
He refuses to use the queen at all because he doesn't believe women can have power and using the Queen would be "woke".
hOrni@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 82d
Do You think he would play white, because they are white or black because they are the colour of SS uniforms?
Speculater@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 82d
There are more ways a chess game can go than there atoms in the universe... He's a fool.
davitz@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 79d
He is a fool, and chess is a difficult game, but the reason you've cited here is also true for Go Fish.
Grail@multiverse.soulism.net · 17 pts · 82d
Polytopia solves this.
(Okay actually I don't like Chess because too much of the game is memorising openings. The game is only fun if you suck or if you're already a grandmaster. All the in between parts are unfun. That's why I prefer Go.)
MrNobody@quokk.au · 19 pts · 82d
It’s called Go Fish, not Go - that’s a programming language.
RustySharp@programming.dev · 5 pts · 82d
Am I being wooshed here? Aren't Go and Go Fish two completely different games?
hessenjunge@discuss.tchncs.de · 12 pts · 82d
You’re both right and being wooshed. (And maybe missed you that Go is also the name of a programming language?)
Kanda@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 82d
I'm 1600 fide and have yet to see a game actually be decided by someone memorising openings
TwoTiredMice@feddit.dk · 4 pts · 82d
At 1600 you might have moved above those who play that way. I've played a bit in the past and I reached 1200 and it seemed like opponents really relied on their openings. If I recognised their opening and played a completely random move they did not know what to do.
Kanda@reddthat.com · 5 pts · 82d
Openings are very hyped because "crush xyz in 12 moves" is a really good sell. "Do the hard work and you'll actually improve after like months or years if you do it consistently" is not such a good sell.
And so every new player studies a lot of openings, gets a theoretical grandmaster position (yay, you're equal as Black) and then blunder a piece and lose anyway.
AdolfSchmitler@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
You've never gotten into a better or worse position cuz someone knew an opening trap and the other person did not? GM's fall for that shit every so often so you must not play a lot of chess or something.
Kanda@reddthat.com · 4 pts · 82d
Of course it's happened, but saying it's because of the opening is not correct. It's because I didn't calculate well and my other skills were not good enough. In very fast time controls it can give you a big edge if you're good at memorization, but most opening lines work only in very specific circumstances and you can play maaany games before you see it.
Fairly often one player will be in a position where they are more comfortable in intermediate games, but the game is far from over.
Weaker players sometimes fall apart entirely in the opening, but unless you're in the market for the world champion title, there's absolutely no need to memorize openings. Games are decided either by simple tactics or endgame knowledge more than anything at the lower levels.
saltnotsugar@lemmy.world · 7 pts · 82d
The pawns can only advance? What is this, a banzai charge?
BeigeAgenda@lemmy.ca · 6 pts · 82d
And the queen is too OP, with no QOL improvements the last 1000 years.
merc@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 82d
I liked Battle Chess back in the day because it had chess rules but made the capturing of squares more exciting.
So, at least it got a graphics upgrade after about 1500 years. But, I got tired of it because still, it's just chess. There's no random element, every game starts the same way. Other games like poker are also largely skill based games, but at least each game starts differently.
smeenz@lemmy.nz · 2 pts · 82d
Oh my god, you just reminded me of the pc bleeper digitised sound bites that battle chess played on PC back in the day when the pieces were taken
Furbag@pawb.social · 4 pts · 82d
Nerf Knights, Buff Bishops.
BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world · 4 pts · 82d
The last major rules update for chess was only in the 19th century. Plus minor rules are updated all the time
Sirdubdee@piefed.social · 4 pts · 82d
Skill issue
Lushed_Lungfish@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 82d
Well then git gud.