Is there anything about the orcs being dark-skinned? You might be mixing up orcs with the Haradrim. Sometimes orcs are portrayed as green. 'Authoritarian' is a propaganda-term used chiefly about Stalin and Hitler; they're the type-examples. It might sometimes be used for black-skinned people like Mugabe or the Duvaliers, but less commonly; it's normally a term liberals use for the Soviet bloc and the fascists. They have other propaganda-terms for their dark-skinned rivals.
Nah, authoritarian is basically a term for any system of governance that's different from western liberal capitalism originating in Europe. Russia has never been seen as truly European in the west, this is basically what the whole untermensch narrative nazis embraced is based on. In the Nazi racial hierarchy, being "white" or "Aryan" was not a given for all Europeans. Instead, an internal hierarchy existed where Nordic peoples were at the top, and Slavs were placed at the bottom, akin to non-European races. And these are the values Europeans very much embrace to this day.
Europe is a vestigial organ of amerikkka, all their political opinions that don't arise out of some petty medieval ethnic feud are imported directly from us. We tell them to fuck their economies by cutting Russian gas, they do it.
Maybe to most Conservative westerners. I'm always a little puzzled about why people around the world seem to think American = Redneck Republican. At least that's what comes through on social media. But I guess it's only fair, since we think French = Snotty Waiters, Australian = Crocodile Dundee, etc.
The issue is that there are also many "progressives" who are like this, ex: supporting the kidnapping of the president of Venezuela or the invasion of Iran. Just because someone might be less bigoted to queer people or immigrants it doesn't mean they're any less imperialist, unfortunately. And this isn't just a problem over there of course, I know too many people from my country who side with our comprador elite rather than workers like them.
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ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml · 47 pts · 73d
Also the chart for:
Government vs Regime
Freedom fighter vs Terrorist
Expat vs Immigrant
Child vs Combat-age male
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 20 pts · 72d
Police vs security forces
Intelligence services vs secret police
narwhal@mander.xyz · 15 pts · 72d
Trusted source vs Propaganda outlet
Media regulation vs State censorship
Rule of law vs Human rights violations
We should really document this language.
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml · 12 pts · 73d
Russia gets called authoritarian every day
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 26 pts · 73d
yeah but Russians are considered Asiatic mongrels by the Europeans, they're the orcs and aren't really white you see
icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · 1 pts · 73d
Source?
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 23 pts · 73d
the whole orc narrative and Russian hordes narrative has very much been embraced by western media over the past four years https://web.archive.org/web/20260414080035/https://spectator.com/article/why-are-ukrainians-calling-russian-invaders-orcs/?edition=us
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 73d
Is there anything about the orcs being dark-skinned? You might be mixing up orcs with the Haradrim. Sometimes orcs are portrayed as green. 'Authoritarian' is a propaganda-term used chiefly about Stalin and Hitler; they're the type-examples. It might sometimes be used for black-skinned people like Mugabe or the Duvaliers, but less commonly; it's normally a term liberals use for the Soviet bloc and the fascists. They have other propaganda-terms for their dark-skinned rivals.
yogthos@lemmy.ml · 17 pts · 73d
Nah, authoritarian is basically a term for any system of governance that's different from western liberal capitalism originating in Europe. Russia has never been seen as truly European in the west, this is basically what the whole untermensch narrative nazis embraced is based on. In the Nazi racial hierarchy, being "white" or "Aryan" was not a given for all Europeans. Instead, an internal hierarchy existed where Nordic peoples were at the top, and Slavs were placed at the bottom, akin to non-European races. And these are the values Europeans very much embrace to this day.
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 16 pts · 73d
icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · -3 pts · 73d
Since when is the WSJ European?
RiverRock@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 73d
Europe is a vestigial organ of amerikkka, all their political opinions that don't arise out of some petty medieval ethnic feud are imported directly from us. We tell them to fuck their economies by cutting Russian gas, they do it.
icanbrewmushrooms@lemmy.world · 0 pts · 73d
frightful_hobgoblin@lemmy.ml · -3 pts · 73d
🙄
iByteABit@lemmy.ml · 8 pts · 73d
Not always the defining factor (see East Germany) but it definitely amplifies the existing class hatred
GarbageDetector@sh.itjust.works · 0 pts · 68d
LovableSidekick@lemmy.world · -2 pts · 72d
Maybe to most Conservative westerners. I'm always a little puzzled about why people around the world seem to think American = Redneck Republican. At least that's what comes through on social media. But I guess it's only fair, since we think French = Snotty Waiters, Australian = Crocodile Dundee, etc.
orc_princess@lemmy.ml · 11 pts · 72d
The issue is that there are also many "progressives" who are like this, ex: supporting the kidnapping of the president of Venezuela or the invasion of Iran. Just because someone might be less bigoted to queer people or immigrants it doesn't mean they're any less imperialist, unfortunately. And this isn't just a problem over there of course, I know too many people from my country who side with our comprador elite rather than workers like them.
m532@lemmy.ml · 6 pts · 71d
Would it make any difference if they thought all yanks were vote genocide no matter who radlibs?
BrainInABox@lemmy.ml · 4 pts · 71d
Liberal westerners are no better on this