'This game is extremely broken': The dev of VKD3D-Proton, software for running Direct3D 12 games on Linux, isn't enjoying Forza Horizon 6 very much
https://www.pcgamer.com/software/linux/this-game-is-extremely-broken-the-dev-of-vkd3d-proton-software-for-running-direct3d-12-games-on-linux-isnt-enjoying-forza-horizon-6-very-much/
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ArfArfWoof@europe.pub · 38 pts · 114d
I, a user of linux and gamer of Horizon 6, am enjoying the game very much.
Despite having every graphics setting set to its lowest and framerate capped to 25, as likelyhood of crash seems to increase with GPU load.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl · 10 pts · 114d
I haven't had much problems really, performance could be better but it's enjoyable
ArfArfWoof@europe.pub · 6 pts · 113d
I guess you got an AMD GPU? An RTX chud can only dream.
EddoWagt@feddit.nl · 9 pts · 113d
Yup, RX 9070XT. My condolences
fuckwit_mcbumcrumble@lemmy.dbzer0.com · 0 pts · 113d
It works extremely well on my rtx laptop.
artyom@piefed.social · 26 pts · 113d
far_university1990@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 113d
Sound like someone on crack figure out how to avoid problem for optimize some weird shit.
randamumaki@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 26 pts · 113d
How much vibe coding is going into these releases these days? And how can we bring it back to 0?
sunbeam60@feddit.uk · 15 pts · 113d
Trust me, as someone who started in the games industry 20+ years ago: Crappy technical shortcuts and tonnes of WontFix bugs to hit a deadline all happened just fine before AI.
M0oP0o@mander.xyz · 3 pts · 113d
At this point? Maybe the heat death of the universe? Really under 10% would be amazing.
far_university1990@reddthat.com · 2 pts · 113d
Make CPU/GPU illegal. No process power no AI.
plutopos@lemmy.zip · 2 pts · 113d
How are you gonna play videogames without a CPU/GPU
Minnels@lemmy.zip · 4 pts · 113d
Boardgames are not videogames but there are a lot of really good ones these days. Problem is that often you need to be a couple of people to play unless you like the solo experience.
Analog or digital games, all the same fun!
BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world · 2 pts · 113d
With AI chips. Obviously
far_university1990@reddthat.com · 1 pts · 113d
They only ask how to bring to 0, not how to bringt to 0 without affect everyone.
Edit: also ask to 0, not reduce. True 0 = nothing at all.
supersquirrel@sopuli.xyz · 12 pts · 112d
Just go play Motor Town: Behind The Wheel.
Trust me the driving physics are second to only maybe BeamNG and the open world GTA sidejob like structure is a blast to chill out and play in multiplayer or singleplayer.
Urgent taxi jobs are awesome point to point races.
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1369670/Motor_Town_Behind_The_Wheel/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DqdhBP_U4Y
Fuck Microsoft
sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io · 11 pts · 113d
LordDaveTheKind@piefed.social · 8 pts · 113d
Forza Horizon 6 - StutterFest Edition.
Note: based on my experience, it doesn't look like stuttering but more like lack of proper frame pacing.
Pure_Psykosis@lemmy.ca · 3 pts · 113d
God I wish this was fixed, also the issue where vinyls dont show up correctly in the picker.
theit8514@lemmy.world · 6 pts · 113d
I wonder if this is an Nvidia thing. It's been working quite well on my AMD hardware. I played for like 4 hours yesterday and then left the game open for 2 more by accident and it was still stable. I did lower some environment graphics settings to reduce microstutters but otherwise it's running quite well at 60 fps.
biotin7@sopuli.xyz · 3 pts · 112d
Fuck microsoft.
who@feddit.org · 1 pts · 113d
ilinamorato@lemmy.world · 5 pts · 113d
I feel like this comment is written for a different post...?
who@feddit.org · 1 pts · 113d
Weird. I don't know how that happened. I wonder if I hit a glitch in Lemmy's web UI.
alakey@piefed.social · -33 pts · 114d
The game made by MS for Windows runs very well on Windows, as pointed out in the article as well, so is it "extremely broken" or MS simply couldn't give less of a fuck how it runs on an endless stream of Linux distros?
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 42 pts · 113d
It runs like shit on Windows don't worry. I had to disable some archaic gamepad input in a menu I've never seen that I was lead to by a redditor just to escape 20fps and only 15% gpu load
Thassodar@sh.itjust.works · 5 pts · 113d
Runs fantastic on a RX 6800 16GB, on Windows. Not sure the issue because it runs better than Horizon 5 to be honest.
JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca · 8 pts · 113d
5070ti, after that tweak it runs fine. But needing to dig into Windows config menus and halting background processes is not something a well made game requires.
AnyOldName3@lemmy.world · 31 pts · 113d
As tree article says, Microsoft bothered to get the game Steam Deck Certified before launch, so they care about Linux devices at least a little bit.
alakey@piefed.social · -16 pts · 113d
And it does seem to be working on SD. SD verified != Linux verified.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 8 pts · 113d
If you didn't know already, the Steam Deck runs SteamOS, which is an immutable distro based on Arch Linux! Pretty neat. Valve has also been investing a lot of effort and money into Proton, the compatibility layer that lets so many Windows games run on Linux!
Valve is also soon releasing the Steam Machine, a little "GabeCube" that also runs SteamOS for kind of a console-PC hybrid. The Steam Controller (2026, why they didn't call it "2" baffles me) will auto-connect with the cube, like how Joy-Cons do with the Switch or the DualSense does with the PS5. They are also making an update to the Valve Index called the "Frame" that can be run standalone with a built-in battery (like the Meta Quest), but it runs SteamOS and doesn't sell your data to the highest bidder (unlike the Quest).
The highlight is that the Frame runs on an ARM chip, meaning Windows x86 non-VR games are translated to be run on a Linux ARM VR headset! Of course, they are using Proton for Windows -> Linux, but they are also investing in something called fex for x86 -> ARM translation. The Frame does lots of other neat tricks too, like "foveated streaming", which means eye-tracking is used to ensure that only the bits you are actively seeing are rendered at full quality, and everybody covering the Frame says it is very accurate, even when the bits you're not seeing are not rendered at all!
vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works · 7 pts · 113d
The only thing MS has to do is not fuck up and use extremely archaic or extremely obscure manufacturer-specific technologies in order to have linux compatibility.
They failed to do that, which also means (and reviews show) this game has serious issues on lots of windows devices as well. Since everything that causes poor performance on linux at this point will also cause poor performance on some windows setups.
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · -8 pts · 113d
Are people not using Proton to play this game? MS isn't expected to do shit to get it running on an endless stream of Linux distros
mech@feddit.org · 10 pts · 113d
Why are you commenting in this thread, if you haven't even read its title completely?
prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone · 0 pts · 112d
You know what, you're right! The dev who made part of Proton is just incapable of playing Linux native builds of games.
GOOD point.
sbeak@sopuli.xyz · 4 pts · 113d
When running the game with Proton, lots of users are experiencing a bunch of issues, primarily on Nvidia hardware. Dunno why, something about the game has weird stuff going on. The article mentions in the title that this is a complaint by the dev of VKD3D-Proton